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DHS Denies Massive Ammunition Purchase
US News.com ^ | 3/22/13 | Elizabeth Flock

Posted on 03/22/2013 6:11:56 PM PDT by Nachum

The Department of Homeland Security responded Friday to questions from Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., about why the agency was allegedly planning to buy some 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.

DHS told Whispers it regularly fills all of its goods and services requirements at one time because it's cheaper for the agency, and that the 1.6 billion number was misleading because the language of DHS's purchase said it would need "up to" a certain amount.

One solicitation by the agency—for training centers and law enforcement personnel—was for "up to" 750 million rounds of training ammunition over the next five years, DHS spokesman Peter Boogaard told Whispers.

[READ: Joe the Plumber Is Back and Giving Away a Free AR-15]

Another five-year contract allows for the purchase of "up to" 450 million rounds of ammunition, he said, and was also for law enforcement. Boogaard noted that the contract would be used by all DHS agencies except the Coast Guard.

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We don' no noting 'bout no bullits
1 posted on 03/22/2013 6:11:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 03/22/2013 6:12:23 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Everyone knows this but them? They’re living in a basement or something?


3 posted on 03/22/2013 6:12:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Nachum

“Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?”


4 posted on 03/22/2013 6:15:41 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: SkyDancer
Its 'been out there' for months...
make ya wonder why nothing said until now.

5 posted on 03/22/2013 6:16:16 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: SkyDancer

Congress should just defund a billion bullets.

This isn’t difficult.


6 posted on 03/22/2013 6:16:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: Nachum

OH, I see, This is just a John Kerry Christmas in Cambodia moment.


7 posted on 03/22/2013 6:16:46 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Nachum

I know that they consolidated a bunch of agencies into the DHS umbrella. DHS only constitutes a portion of the federal agents employed.

I’d like to know, why in the hell there are 100,000 of them. Not counting FBI, DEA, US Marshals, etc etc.


8 posted on 03/22/2013 6:16:57 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Nachum

Like we can believe anything this government says. Geesh. We’re not stupid.


9 posted on 03/22/2013 6:18:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Whatever happened to the land of the free, home of the brave?)
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To: SkyDancer

I heard an explanation that someone mistook a quantity of “1600M” to mean 1,600 million as is conventionally used whereas in government accounting speak it mean 1,600 of some kind of conventional unit such as boxes or cases. No confirmation, so I’m skeptical.


10 posted on 03/22/2013 6:20:20 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: 45semi

Because there really is nothing out there, and the whole thing is so absurd that nobody had thought to actually care about it, until some people who don’t understand federal procurement got it in their heads that our government was stocking up on bullets for the zombie apocalypse.


11 posted on 03/22/2013 6:21:05 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Nachum

Doesn’t a purchase have to be for a concrete number ? How can the government order “up to” a certain amount over an undefined period ? I don’t know how these things are normally handled, but I am pretty sure it isn’t like that.


12 posted on 03/22/2013 6:22:31 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: Nachum
Here's a start:

Dtd 12/31/12; .40 Cal hollow point, 1000 rounds/case x 200 = 200,000 rounds

13 posted on 03/22/2013 6:24:56 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Nachum
And the TYPE of ammunition they are buying?

The majority of the bullets purchased by the DHS as part of its 2 billion round ammo buying spree were hollow point bullets (one order alone amounted to 450 million of them). Hollow point bullets just happen to be completely unsuitable for training purposes because they cost significantly more money compared to standard firing range bullets. This debunks both the ‘saving money’ argument and the ‘for training purposes only’ claim in one fell swoop.

http://www.examiner.com/article/feds-explanation-of-hollow-point-bullets-raises-more-questions

14 posted on 03/22/2013 6:25:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
And another (21.6 MILLION rounds):

Dtd 02/11/13; .40 Cal & 9mm

15 posted on 03/22/2013 6:28:05 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: bigheadfred

What I would like to know.....WHO is manufacturing these orders?


16 posted on 03/22/2013 6:31:29 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Do you mean the companies of the g-men?


17 posted on 03/22/2013 6:37:01 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

http://rt.com/usa/dhs-million-point-government-179/


18 posted on 03/22/2013 6:40:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

I assume they are sub-contractors and sell to the public?


19 posted on 03/22/2013 6:41:09 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Nachum
How many Americans have heard of HSI, Homeland Security Investigtions, and the SRT, hidden inside of DHS?

Ask THEM where the ammo is going.


20 posted on 03/22/2013 6:41:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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