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To: AllAmericanGirl44

The girl had stated that she wanted to “do” the entire team. So yes, she was by no means a paragon of moral virtue. It also raises the question that if she’d wanted to do the team why does it matter if she were conscious or not?

Please note, I still think these boys have the morals of dogs. They should go to jail but I don’t see her as much better.


55 posted on 03/19/2013 2:22:38 AM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao

She doesn’t sound like a paragon of virtue, like you say.

But wanting to “do” the entire team is not the same thing as wanting to be on display before the whole world being raped, sodomized, subjected to oral sex, and being pissed on - while being mocked over her inability to doing anything to stop it.

And to have these things done to her in the homes of the COACHES and the PROSECUTOR, for heaven’s sake! Sounds like the head coach was making threats to media members who asked about the fact that none of the players were even disciplined after all the booze-and-drugs partying, rapes, and boasting about the rapes were publicly known - because the players didn’t think they had done anything wrong! Wow, if they had murdered somebody but claimed they didn’t think it was wrong, we’d say, “OK, I guess you didn’t do anything wrong....”?

Sounds like the players had the coaches and everybody associated with that team eating from their hands. It’s no wonder they acted like they were God - their whole world was treating them as if they were!


62 posted on 03/19/2013 3:36:28 AM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Fai Mao; Springfield Reformer

It also raises the question that if she’d wanted to do the team why does it matter if she were conscious or not?

This is Springfield Reformer’s Answer:
Nót really. Competency is an important legal concept and these exact scenarios are a familiar topic in crim law. Tort too. Bottom line, its about consent. If a person can’t or won’t give consent, for any reason, its rape. Drugs and alcohol are well known to impair judgement, and without capacity for ordinary good judgment, you can’t assign consent. This is true even if the impairment is just being a little too young. You can have a fully aware person who actually wants to participate, but the law will deem their judgment impaired by their youth, making consent a legal impossibility. Statutory rape. So this is why the defense was trying to find some point on the drunkenness spectrum where he could claim she was not yet impaired. He needed that to get consent. Apparently that strategy was unsuccessful.

And logically, on this occasion, she didn’t ‘do’ the whole team. Some of the team members ‘did’ her. You want to feed yourself everyday. What does it matter if you lift the forkful of food to your mouth and swallow it or if I hold your gullet open and slide down a small, dead garden snake 3 times a day?


323 posted on 03/19/2013 8:15:00 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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