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Must voters have to prove citizenship to register?
Town Hall ^ | Mar. 17, 2013 | Jesse J. Holland

Posted on 03/17/2013 7:17:24 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court will struggle this week with the validity of an Arizona law that tries to keep illegal immigrants from voting by demanding all state residents show documents proving their U.S. citizenship before registering to vote in national elections.

The high court will hear arguments Monday over the legality of Arizona's voter-approved requirement that prospective voters document their U.S. citizenship in order to use a registration form produced under the federal "Motor Voter" voter registration law that doesn't require such documentation.

This case focuses on voter registration in Arizona, which has tangled frequently with the federal government over immigration issues involving the Mexican border. But it has broader implications because four other states — Alabama, Georgia, Kansas and Tennessee — have similar requirements, and 12 other states are contemplating similar legislation, officials say.

The Obama administration is supporting challengers to the law.

If Arizona can add citizenship requirements, then "each state could impose all manner of its own supplemental requirements beyond the federal form," Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr. said in court papers. "Those requirements could encompass voluminous documentary or informational demands, and could extend to any eligibility criteria beyond citizenship, such as age, residency, mental competence, or felony history."

A federal appeals court threw out the part of Arizona's Proposition 200 that added extra citizenship requirements for voter registration, but only after lower federal judges had approved it.

Arizona wants the justices to reinstate its requirement.

Kathy McKee, who led the push to get the proposition on the ballot, said voter fraud, including by illegal immigrants, continues to be a problem in Arizona. "For people to conclude there is no problem is just shallow logic," McKee said.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; electionfraud; votefraud; voterfraud
"The fallacy in that is that someone who is willing to vote illegally will be willing to sign a false statement. What (opponents) are urging is that there should be nothing more than an honor system to assure that registered voters are citizens. That was not acceptable to the people of Arizona."
1 posted on 03/17/2013 7:17:24 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE
Must voters have to prove citizenship to register?

Well, Duh! If Illegal Aliens are voting, taking away citizens votes, well, Yeah!

2 posted on 03/17/2013 7:19:18 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: EXCH54FE

It will be tough for SCOTUS to confirm a law that will stop the President of the USA from voting.


3 posted on 03/17/2013 7:27:20 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: EXCH54FE

What would be wrong with that? When I first registered to vote, I brought with me my Naturalization Certificate. I was PROUD to show that I was a US citizen!


4 posted on 03/17/2013 7:27:24 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: EXCH54FE

YES


5 posted on 03/17/2013 7:40:10 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: EXCH54FE

This is a story that the context is strongly improved by substituting the words “Mexican citizen(s)” for “illegal alien(s)”. Things become a lot clearer as to what is being argued.

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The Supreme Court will struggle this week with the validity of an Arizona law that tries to keep *Mexican citizens* from voting by demanding all state residents show documents proving their U.S. citizenship before registering to vote in national elections...

Arizona officials say they should be able to pass laws to stop *Mexican citizens* and other *foreign citizens* from getting on their voting rolls. The Arizona voting law was part of a package that also denied some government benefits to *Mexican citizens* and required Arizonans to show identification before voting...


6 posted on 03/17/2013 7:52:59 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: EXCH54FE

bttt


7 posted on 03/17/2013 7:58:08 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: EXCH54FE
When I applied for a passport, I was required to show positive proof of citizenship. I had my expired password, which was "good enough" for the Passport Desk at my local Post Office...but I had to relinquish it so it could be "sent in for verification" before I could get it back.

Now that says there is precedent for requiring citizens to prove citizenship for those activities that have citizenship as a requirement, such as voting. So if the Supreme Court strikes down the citizenship proof for voting, then it should be a simple matter of invoking stare decisis to remove the requirement to obtain a password. Voting registration and passport distribution are strictly restricted to citizens; the proof requirements should be the same.

This could turn interesting.

8 posted on 03/17/2013 8:00:34 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: EXCH54FE

Yes, and they should all receive a digital certificate on a smart card to prove it. The card should also contain a picture of the person, which could also be used in the hash algorithm to validate the cert. When the poll worker inserts the card your picture would come up along with your hand written signature. Both of which would be visually validated by the poll worker.

You should have to provide proof of residence to obtain the card. That would be the tricky part and would the biggest hole in the process. Fraudsters would focus on how to obtain the cards instead of how to manipulate the difficult to defeat certs.

The system could then determine the number of valid certs in a district. If the number of votes exceeded the number of issued certs you’d know vote fraud had occurred.


9 posted on 03/17/2013 8:28:56 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: EXCH54FE
The Supreme Court will struggle this week with the validity of an Arizona law that tries to keep illegal immigrants from voting by demanding all state residents show documents proving their U.S. citizenship before registering to vote in national elections.

It's a struggle?...to decide this?

Really?

We are so screwed.

10 posted on 03/17/2013 8:30:04 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: EXCH54FE

HELL YES!


11 posted on 03/17/2013 9:10:38 AM PDT by nomad
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I wish motor voter could be done away.


12 posted on 03/17/2013 9:17:18 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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The Supreme Court will struggle this week with the validity of an Arizona law that tries to keep illegal immigrants from voting by demanding all state residents show documents proving their U.S. citizenship before registering to vote in national elections.

It is racist to validate eligibility... for anything.

13 posted on 03/17/2013 9:34:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: All
“Fathom the arrogance and hypocrisy by our Government
that requires every citizen to prove they are insured under ∅Care™…
but not everyone,
including voters, must prove they are a citizen of the U.S.”

~ Enhanced version from Ben Stein quote


14 posted on 03/17/2013 10:05:31 PM PDT by QT3.14 ( USA: Likely only country in world history to adopt policies and laws that ensure self-destruction)
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To: EXCH54FE

Yes, and if they provide fraudulent “proof” they should be incarcerated for Ten Years and fined $100,000.

If they actually Voted, make it One Hundred years and make the fine $1,000,000.

Next question.


15 posted on 03/17/2013 10:22:24 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A Republican freed the Slaves and a Democrat murdered Martin Luther King.)
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