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Medieval plague victims unearthed in City of London square
The Guardian ^ | Thursday 14 March 2013 | Gwyn Topham

Posted on 03/14/2013 10:10:16 PM PDT by Beowulf9

Seven centuries after their demise, the skeletons of 12 plague victims have been unearthed in the City of London, a find which archaeologists believe to be just the tip of a long-lost Black Death mass burial ground.

Arranged in careful rows, the bodies were discovered 2.5 metres below the ground in Charterhouse Square in works for a Crossrail tunnel shaft beside the future ticketing hall for Farringdon station.

Tests are needed to confirm the skeletons' provenance, but the discovery should shed more light on life and death in 14th-century Britain and help scientists to understand how the plague mutated.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; catastrophism; epidemics; glyphs; gods; godsgravesglyphs; graves; london; medieval; pandemics; plague; plagues; skeletons; sunkenciv; thesniffles

1 posted on 03/14/2013 10:10:16 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9; SunkenCiv; All

If the plague had been severely epidemic at the time, I would have thought the bodies would be buried closer together.


2 posted on 03/14/2013 10:18:17 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

My thoughts as well. It seems a bit less random than I would expect.


3 posted on 03/14/2013 10:19:32 PM PDT by stormer
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To: gleeaikin

“The first skeletons were laid out in neat rows, suggesting that they died in an early wave while the authorities – the then lord mayor – had made provision for the impending disaster coming from the continent.

But this is the first sign of what John Stow’s 1598 Survey of London suggested could contain as many as 50,000 bodies.”


4 posted on 03/14/2013 10:23:41 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: gleeaikin
If the plague had been severely epidemic at the time, I would have thought the bodies would be buried closer together.

It was the work of charity in those days to bury the dead with as much care as possible. It was considered a work of mercy. The people were unfortunate victims, and they buried them similar to their loved ones.

In our modern mindset, we tend to think of mass burials like the Nazi atrocities where people would be carelessly lumped together, however the people in London in those days were not as hard-hearted and exhibited tremendous care for the dead.

5 posted on 03/14/2013 11:02:11 PM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Beowulf9

Did they find any tombstones inscribed: ‘Ichaue tolde yow Ich was sek.’


6 posted on 03/14/2013 11:10:08 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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7 posted on 03/14/2013 11:13:35 PM PDT by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: gleeaikin
In Daniel Defoe's A Journal of the Plague Year, he noted that many were buried in common graves (mass burial).

Defoe's work was written some time after the plague, and Defoe would have only been five years old in 1665, and the work is regarded as an historical novel in current parlance. However, Defoe went to some great lengths and detail to bring the impact of the plague home to the reader.

Samuel Pepys' Diary is a more contemporary writing, although I have (admittedly) not read it in its entirety.

8 posted on 03/15/2013 12:50:00 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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" .. but the discovery should shed more light on life and death in 14th-century Britain and help scientists to understand how the plague mutated."

They didn't wash ... anything, pissed in the street, and dropped their aitches ...

What'dya' expect ?

9 posted on 03/15/2013 2:19:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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Let’s just hope it didn’t mutate into a new strain that can survive on dead bodies for 700 years!


10 posted on 03/15/2013 3:30:35 AM PDT by MacMattico
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Too late ... some became democrats, migrated over here and turned into commies.


11 posted on 03/15/2013 4:08:48 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Beowulf9

14th century Black Death remains uncovered...this is how zombies are made.


12 posted on 03/15/2013 4:15:11 AM PDT by BigBlueJon ("And shepherds we shall be....For Thee, my Lord, for Thee....")
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To: stormer

Bring Out Your Dead!


13 posted on 03/15/2013 5:10:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Pepys’ diary is fascinating! I’m lucky to have the complete set which I picked up in a 2nd hand bookshop. Even a edited version is great reading.


14 posted on 03/15/2013 5:22:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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yeah, what could possibly go wrong? /rhetorical


15 posted on 03/15/2013 5:29:07 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you've likely misread the situation.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

It is a misconception that “common grave” denotes mass burial. It is more accurately a “Commoner’s grave”, generally one in non-consecrated ground on land provided by the cemetary owner and not the family. It may contain the remains of several unrelated people who died about the same time, but doesn’t really fit the image of a trench filled with bodies, i.e. a mass burial.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 7:06:10 AM PDT by stormer
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Note: this topic is from 03/14/2013. Thanks Beowulf9. Sorry I missed this at the time.

17 posted on 02/26/2018 8:25:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: gleeaikin

It possible these were early victims. I suspect as the plague got more sever things got more chaotic.


18 posted on 02/27/2018 8:06:08 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("The political class is a bureaucracy designed to perpetuate itself" Rush Limbaugh)
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On a related note, from 2015, way cool pics and vid at this link...

SUSPECTED 1665 GREAT PLAGUE PIT UNEARTHED AT CROSSRAIL LIVERPOOL STREET SITE

19 posted on 02/27/2018 8:13:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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