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To: BroJoeK
Why stir the pot?

Both sides were Americans and that is all that matters.

Hell, our most famous General’s family fought for the South - i.e. the Pattons of Virginia. The irony is that the South (generally speaking) has become the last bastion of freedom against the encroaching and sinister effects of socialism seeping in from the rest of the country. Folks in the midwest and Intermountain West need to stand with the Southerners on this before the left and east coast pukes have us all in serivtude. Posts likes this only serve to divide otherwise conservatively similar people on FR. Of course I do not mean this as a slight on FR's founder, who hails from California.

104 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:24 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

“Both sides were Americans and that is all that matters.”

Precisely!

General Ely S. Parker, a member of the Seneca tribe,
drew up the articles of surrender
which General Robert E. Lee
signed at Appomattox Court House on April 9, 1865.
Gen. Parker, who served as Gen. Ulysses S. Grant’s
military secretary was an educated attorney who was once
rejected for Union military service because of his race.
At the meeting, Gen. Lee was at first taken aback
at the presence of an Indian being in such a position.
After he got to know Parker,
Lee is said to have remarked to him,
“I am glad to see one real American here.”
Parker replied, “We are all Americans.”

From Chapter 13, Jesus Wept, An American Story
http://jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com/


117 posted on 03/10/2013 11:05:14 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: ohioman
ohioman: "Why stir the pot?"

Actually, I was hoping to put "the pot" to rest regarding some very frequently heard claims by Pro-Confederates on many FR Civil War threads.

ohioman: "Posts likes this only serve to divide otherwise conservatively similar people on FR."

"Posts like this" are just my response to many other Civil War related threads where our Pro-Confederates like to spread their propaganda regarding their glorious Lost Cause.

Of course, nothing "offends" me about the "glory" part of it, I'm just trying to keep their facts straight.

ohioman: "Of course I do not mean this as a slight on FR's founder, who hails from California."

I suspect you share a fundamental conceptual problem with our Lost Causers, which has to do with looking at the US map as just "north" vs "south" vs "east" vs "west".
That is so wrong I can't even tell you how wrong.

Liberal and Conservative have nothing to do with which state you come from.
They have everything to do with which part of your state you call home.
If your home is a city, chances are very good you're a Liberal, but as you become more rural, your politics become more Conservative.

Here again is that map of red and blue counties, as of the 2004 Bush vs Kerry election:


162 posted on 03/10/2013 12:45:32 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: ohioman

The irony is that the Democrat model for the American Future is the southern slave plantation.

At Arlington, most of the slaves were white. When RE Lee took over management, the first thing he did was to set up whipping posts.

The Democrats still intend to rule, despite local traditions, and despite law, morals, or good manners.


268 posted on 03/10/2013 11:20:16 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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