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Map Shows Where 220mph Trains Would Go in the U.S.
Mashable ^ | 10 Feb 2013 | Charlie White

Posted on 03/04/2013 2:59:36 PM PST by MeganC

Whether a high-speed rail system ever gets built in the United States is still up in the air, but if it is, artist and activist Alfred Twu has figured out exactly where those speedy rail lines should go.

Twu started working on this map in 2009, when President Obama's plan to build high-speed rail was unveiled. "There were many such maps being made by various designers," says Twu, but since then he's updated the map with labels and put it on Facebook, and it struck a chord. It's gone viral.

"With the huge response it's generated, I created a petition to the White House to fund such a system," he told Mashable. After just a week, that White House petition already has 27,528 signatures.

Twu's not just guessing where those routes should be, either. "The routes are based on various studies by government agencies and advocacy groups," he explains.

We like the map's colors and its overall design, into which Twu put a lot of thought. "Some artistic license was applied to make it more elegant and have it be a series of distinct lines like a subway map," he says. "Colors were selected to convey the idea of the U.S. being made up of several interwoven regional cultures that come together at major cities — like an internal melting pot."

Trains zipping across the continent at 220mph might sound like a far-fetched futuristic concept, but Twu thinks this project could be built out much like the Interstate Highway System was built in the 50s, he says. "I've seen 2030 and 2050 as potential dates from various advocacy groups," Twu added.

As you look at the map, you'll see that Twu included unshaded routes, which he says were "purposely left open to interpretation." He says the general idea of adding those routes would be that they would handle "lower-speed trains, as well as potential future high-speed routes."

But certainly there's not enough money to do something like this, given the economic situation in the United States at the moment, right? Tsu says cost estimates for a high-speed rail system like this range from $1-$2 trillion. Geez, that's a lot of money. He responded, "Sounds like a lot, but divided over four decades, that is around $25-$50 billion a year or 80-160 dollars a year per person. That's one tank's worth of gas money."

To get a closer look at the map, view or download this .PDF file.

What do you think, readers? Will this speedy rail system be going near your house? Should the United States catch up with the rest of the developed world and build the system, or should budget constraints keep us from spending money on this futuristic conveyance?


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; fraud; highspeedrail; hsr; waste; willie; williegreen
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To: Redmen4ever

no one would ride them once a terrorist blows up a rail


81 posted on 03/04/2013 5:38:21 PM PST by mriguy67
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To: Army Air Corps

That’s the way Willie would do it, do it, do it, and do it .... until you were fed up with it.


82 posted on 03/04/2013 5:44:40 PM PST by B4Ranch (When democracy turns to tyranny, we still get to vote. We just won't use voting boxes to do it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
lol

is that a REAL map or a complete joke?

so CHICAGO is the high speed rail hub of the US ?!?!?!??!!

ROFL

OMFG! you have GOT to be KIDDING Me!!! who the hell goes to Chigago!!!!!!

this is either a joke, or Obama’s personal kickback to his adopted corupt state.



That was also my observation. The only pattern I see here is that Chicago is supposed to be the hub for this high-speed rail delusion...as if anybody cares about going to Chicago. I'm guessing the airhead that came up with this idea is some kind of sniveling union hack from Chicago.
83 posted on 03/04/2013 5:44:40 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: meyer
Why not just utilize instant videoconferencing/Skipe communications untill the “green energy” matter transporters are perfected?

Frankly I would much rather taxpayers funded the research of genious level engineers than pay for faster choo choo trains!

84 posted on 03/04/2013 5:48:45 PM PST by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: B4Ranch

Spot on...spot on...spot on...


85 posted on 03/04/2013 6:08:43 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: MeganC

HSR works in Europe, Japan and China because they have small amounts of land and are very densely populated. So train service can be quite profitable there even with government subsidies.

Here it would be a White Elephant. Expensive to build and maintain and impractical as day to day transportation. It is an Obamaphile’s wet dream though.

Which is why it periodically rises from the dead even after a stake has been driven through it. I don’t think it will become a reality, certainly not in my lifetime. HSR is just a hi-tech toy train fantasy.


86 posted on 03/04/2013 6:36:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MeganC
“In the SF Bay area there is NO WHERE to build a corridor for high speed anything.”
Sure there is. It can be built along the right of way that Cal Train uses, it can be built elevated on top of that right of way, and it can be built under that right of way just the same as BART is built under a portion of that right of way.

Not practical. If built, it won't be high speed, not along the CalTrain right of way. And it will be expensive. Lots of lawsuits, hearings, delays happening now with the changes due to electrification of CalTrain trains. Which was forced by liberal idiots (diesel was fine, generating electricity for the existing train engines). High speed rail is impossible on that corridor, just can't happen.

87 posted on 03/04/2013 7:43:58 PM PST by roadcat
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To: MeganC

And you can’t run that at 200 mph. Moreover all the efforts of the current ‘bullet’ train in California have been environmentally rebuffed in the Bay Area. My statement stands


88 posted on 03/04/2013 9:10:42 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Political Junkie Too

Perhaps a new way to find revenue???? A whole new version of a Disneyland ride.....


89 posted on 03/04/2013 9:14:07 PM PST by Nifster
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To: MeganC
Will this speedy rail system be going near your house? Should the United States catch up with the rest of the developed world and build the system, or should budget constraints keep us from spending money on this futuristic conveyance?

Catch up with the rest of the world?

Whoopie!All of Europe is what? The size of California?

This article had to have been written by a very young kid, or a sub-70 IQ type.

90 posted on 03/04/2013 11:55:46 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: familyop

No prairie dogs where I live...Wisconsin. Don’t really want them, thank you very much. Oppossums arrived in my state in the late seventies, and they say armadillos will eventually make it this far north. But I don’t know why the prairie dog population does not make its way eastward from the Dakotas. Can’t swim across the Missouri?


91 posted on 03/05/2013 3:15:06 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Dutch Boy

Of course they are! Have you ever tried using strikes to disrupt freeway travel? It doesn’t work very well....


92 posted on 03/05/2013 3:51:26 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: concentric circles

Wow! They moved Birmingham to Montgomery!


93 posted on 03/05/2013 3:56:16 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: MeganC
That means that someone has spent taxpayer money on these various proposals and this map is just a summary of all of those proposals in one, single graphic.

Probably a page out of the Agenda 21 playbook.

94 posted on 03/05/2013 4:58:06 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: driftless2
But I don’t know why the prairie dog population does not make its way eastward from the Dakotas.

Varmint rifles...

95 posted on 03/05/2013 5:23:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

With all the prairie dog holes I see going out west, varmint hunters would have to shooting 24/7 for a decade to decrease the population substantially much less get rid of them completely. I expect to see the critters setting up their own tourist stop the next time the wife and I go out that way.


96 posted on 03/05/2013 9:09:14 AM PST by driftless2
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To: concentric circles

Why does Quincy, IL get a rail link?


97 posted on 03/05/2013 11:41:26 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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