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1 posted on 02/16/2013 11:50:53 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Nothing but your standard medical bullshit.

I've been taking 5g a day of Vitamin C for years. I've never had a kidney stone. My brother does not. He gets kidney stones. QED.

2 posted on 02/16/2013 11:57:07 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: neverdem

In other words, there is NO statistical difference between NOT taking 1000MG of vitamin C or actually taking 1000MG vitamin C when it comes down to kidney stones in men. This is nothing less than DISinformation.

NO data about its obvious effectiveness in helping with the common cold...

Gee whiz, Wally, do you think there might be something ELSE going on?


3 posted on 02/17/2013 12:03:48 AM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: neverdem
Everybody who has ever had a Kidney stone has ate a Carrot.
Stay away from the Carrots.
4 posted on 02/17/2013 12:10:00 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: neverdem

Total bullshit. I have been taking five grams a day for nearly forty years — ever since Dr Linus Pauling wrote his famous book and have never had a kidney stone. Or a cold. Or any other major disease.


6 posted on 02/17/2013 1:12:04 AM PST by BullDog108 (FUBO)
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To: neverdem
This just in:
EVERYBODY YES EVERYBODY who eats carrots will DIE.
7 posted on 02/17/2013 1:20:22 AM PST by DeaconRed (I want to see ZERO frog marched off to the Federal Pen with Hitlery & others with him.)
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To: neverdem

Never heard this one before regarding Vit. C and kidney stones, however, I’d stay away from excessive amounts of Tums for heartburn. I used to take pretty many, and I did get a kidney stone; no more Tums for me.


8 posted on 02/17/2013 1:25:04 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: neverdem

kidney stones are due to diet, genetics, and how much liquid you drink.


9 posted on 02/17/2013 1:36:01 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: neverdem

Correlation is not Causation.


11 posted on 02/17/2013 3:00:37 AM PST by Makana (Today's solution is tomorrow's problem.)
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To: neverdem

A few comments on Vit C intake: 99% of C is manufactured in China. I would eat nothing made in China. 2. Vit C is metabolized to oxalate which in combination with calcium forms calcium oxalate crystals, the basis of some forms of stones in humans. 3. Vit C is an antioxidant, having other health benefits. 4. Taking massive doses probably leads to an increase in stone incidence in susceptible people. 4. Massive doses of C are simply excreted in the urine, most unmetabolized. 5. Vit C’s effect on fighting the common cold is highly controversial and is probably of negligible benefit. 6. Vit C will prevent scurvy based on both experimental proof and 100% response rate in human clinical trials. In summary, pertaining to this study, Vit C most likely does lead to an increase incidence of kidney stones in susceptible populations of people.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 3:37:52 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: neverdem
I take a half teaspons of baking soda to relieve heartburn, works great and is much cheaper than antacids.

With that being said, I've read that baking soda will also help prevent and disolve existing kidney stones........

17 posted on 02/17/2013 3:40:56 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: neverdem

The CDC reported recently that laboratory mice cause cancer.


21 posted on 02/17/2013 3:48:23 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: neverdem

Did they control for other factors? I know people who take vitamin C but it constitutes their only efforts at healthy eating.


22 posted on 02/17/2013 3:57:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: neverdem

Strange.... My physcian told me to take 3 Vit. C tablets a day to avoid UTI’s.


25 posted on 02/17/2013 5:11:43 AM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: neverdem

Strange.... My physcian told me to take 3 Vit. C tablets a day to avoid UTI’s.


26 posted on 02/17/2013 5:19:00 AM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: neverdem

I read that the body cant use more than 250mg VitC at one time.

Therefore, I take a 1000 tab and break in thirds - to take thruout the day.


30 posted on 02/17/2013 5:30:48 AM PST by PraiseTheLord (economic civil war ?)
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To: neverdem
I used to take One-a-day vitamins every day. Got horrible Kidney stones. Still don't know the source of the stone, but this kind of makes sense. I'm not sure if the human body really needs supplements if you've never been sick from a lack of vitamins.

By the way, Kidney stones are nothing to joke about. I had to have surgery to remove mine, which resulted in a second surgery to undo the damage from the first surgery. I had several follow up trips to the emergency room to be cathetered for the internal rip in my penis and then self cathetered myself for a year following surgery to prevent scar tissue from blocking my penis shut. Total nightmare scenario.

33 posted on 02/17/2013 5:43:10 AM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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..calcium oxalate is the composition of about 80% of stones--had several bad attacks a few years ago
40 posted on 02/17/2013 6:39:25 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: neverdem

You are more likely to get a kidney stone from taking calcium without at least half the portion of magnesium along side it.


41 posted on 02/17/2013 6:49:04 AM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: neverdem

An important note is that those who take Vitamin C have to take a lot, and often, because it is water soluble and is quickly eliminated from the body, too quickly for it to be substantially absorbed at the cellular level except after taking it for a long time. This also creates the additional problem of acid upset, so a buffered version of Vitamin C is sold.

However, the way around this problem completely is to convert your water soluble Vitamin C into fat soluble Vitamin C. It will be absorbed better and stay in your body longer. While you can buy it this way, OTC, it is far more expensive, so it is much better to make your own.

It is called “Liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C”.

Here is a video how to make your own:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeU—wadrMY


45 posted on 02/17/2013 7:23:54 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: neverdem

I’ve had an allergic reaction from taking too much Vit. C. Terrible itchy whelps across my entire torso.


46 posted on 02/17/2013 7:57:13 AM PST by WCH
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