Are Sandyhook disbelievers barred from FR ?

various and youtube ^ | February 8, 2013 | knarf, various youtube

[knarf]

I looked and saw no crazy threads disbelieving Sandyhook

[wolfman23601]

No, they are not banned. I have expressed my own doubts and arguments. I don’t go as far as believing the Obama administration orchestrated the whole thing, but I am not buying the official narrative either. I am convinced the murders took place... not convinced Lanza was the only one involved and not convinced the sole weapon was an “assault” rifle. I think there was a larger conspiracy involved and the town is covering it up for whatever reason... or perhaps they will release the details when the “investigation” is over.

I don’t think the feds had anything to do with it other than they had their ducks in a row and a choreographed response waiting for the next mass shooting to go after guns. There might be some evil in the administation, but there are too many good people that work for the government (I am a contractor) for this to be a vast conspiracy that reaches so far.

[knarf]

The last few minutes of the video I posted shows an overhead shot of the community and another school nearby loaded with cars in the parking lot and Sand Hook not too far away ... empty parking lot

A point brought out in the first part of the video is that this was just before Christmas and for an elementary school ... it was surprisingly empty of window decorations

What elementary school does NOT decorate its windows for ANY holiday?

[Uncle Chip]

I watched that video. What is it supposed to show??

He shows 5 minutes of aerial video when there is no action and you are foolish enough to believe that the 5 minute period is representative of the whole morning.

He's the hoax and he's hoaxing you.

He claims that there were no interviews. Who is he kidding -- there were interviews all morning long.

[Donnafrflorida]

For those of us who spent upwards of 20 hours looking at official and news reports.... i say again... NOTHING makes sense. NOTHING adds up.

[knarf]

It shows just what it shows ... a bunch of people going in one door, out another, back and around and milling about .... all on a day that has captured the attention of America in a manner ala 9/11.

A fireman taped off a few vehicles ... why? There were no abulances bringing anyone in ... no crime scene ... but the police tape came out ... why?

Who's in the chopper and why does no one HEAR nor SEE it ?

EXCELLENT lenses and steady-cam footage in my opinion.

[RummyChick]

"There might be some evil in the administation, but there are too many good people that work for the government (I am a contractor) for this to be a vast conspiracy that reaches so far."

All it takes is a few.

People forget about MK Ultra. To that end, you have to figure out whether Clinton's enemy William Cooper was just a nut job , or a nut job who had a basis for this:



I don't have enough info to form an opinion

[RicocheT]

The only thing about Sandyhook that bothers me is that Obama a d the gun haters are using it to destroy our Second Amendment.

All the talked about anti‑gun legislation infringes on our constitutional Second Amendment rights and, if enacted, would do nothing to stop mass murderers and the violence in our larger cities.

Honest, good citizens using firearms for self defense or defense of others in danger stop illegal gun violence, not cause such violence. Bad and mentally disturbed mass murderers look for places where helpless innocents gather and then do killing to get some sick notoriety. Gun type or magazine capacity won't slow these beasts. The CT school shooter had 10+ minutes before police came in. If he only had two old Colt revolvers and a pocket full of cartridges, he would have shot just as many.

Criminals ignore laws, that's why we call them criminals. If drug gang can bring in tons of weed and mega kilos of cocaine, they will also import firearms to protect their turf. Gun registration or restrictions only hit honest citizens, not criminals.

We already have enough gun restrictions, no more are needed. Folks down by the border and we in Milwaukee know the ATF promotes gun running and straw buyers, not stops it.

[RummyChick]

You are wasting your time with Uncle Chip. He maintains that the first LEOs on the scene with an active shooter shooting up a school committing mass murder would neatly park their car in a parking lot in a line with the rest of the cars.]

There is something else odd about those cars. Notice how almost all of them are backed into their space. Unlike a normal day scene on a Google Map.

[Hot Tabasco]

who is in a helicopter,

I can't believe it was taken in a helicopter. At that distance, any variance in it's position would drastically change the viewing angle of the grounds and I don't think a helicopter can remain motionless that long.

I suspect the camera is mounted on a tower but how did the guy hosting the video get the footage?

Which brings up a question I have. How could an entire town participate in an alleged hoax of this magnitude without someone coming forward and blowing the whistle on it?

[RummyChick]

Have you seen the tape about the wardrobe change??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYc7o_wQ6wM

On the original helicopter footage the yellow shirt guy is at the beginning and the second guy is at the end.

One possible explanation for the behavior of the Yellow Shirt guy is that there was an incident involving a camera man that went on for some time.

Yellow shirt dude may have just been hanging around to see what happened.

[Uncle Chip]

It shows people waiting on news as to whether their children are alive or dead. They would obviously not be able to stay put but would be trying to walk off their nervousness and uncertainty.

<>A fireman taped off a few vehicles ... why? There were no abulances bringing anyone in ... no crime scene ... but the police tape came out ... why?<>

What are you talking about??? Here —

1] Interview with one of two mothers who witnessed the 8 to 10 kids running down to the firehouse, the Lanza’s Honda with black sweatshirts strewn on the ground and all 4 doors open [indication that it had probably already been searched], the broken plate glass window at the front door, the unusual quiet just before the final gunshots rang out from inside the school, and the kids subsequently and orderly evacuating the building:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbd6qRY358

2] Video at 0:24 of the broken plate glass window at the front door of the school:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/18/us/connecticut-shooting-adam-lanza-barber/index.html

3] Police dispatch with video [at 0:50] of the broken plate glass window at the front door of the school:

http://www.frequency.com/video/broken-glass-at-front-of-sandy-hook/72154872/-/5-85140

4] Police Dispatch of the Sandy Hook shooting:

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/14/news/doc50cc0897adc1a203744261.txt?viewmode=default

5] STATE POLICE IDENTIFY WEAPONS USED IN SANDY HOOK

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284&A=4226

6] Details of shooting at Wikipedia with other resources and links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

7] State Police: All 26 Newtown victims shot with the Bushmaster

http://www.ctpost.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4220548.php

8]Marilyn Gudsnuk — real Sandy Hook eye witness. Sees 2 boys in front of fire station running from the school as 7 or 8 police cars were going in opposite direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sem3eN_z5nY

[RummyChick]

“Which brings up a question I have. How could an entire town participate in an alleged hoax of this magnitude without someone coming forward and blowing the whistle on it? “

It can’t. That doesn’t mean something weird isn’t going on.

I truly believe there are disinformation people out there that gin up some of the wildest theories. That guy from Dallas posts all kinds of wild stuff about people looking like other people that clearly don’t look like the other person. Some do look pretty similar. Like the Nick Phelps character but there still seems to be differences.

How is he able to pick some obscure random film or one clip out of dozens and dozens of episodes of a television series and hook it into people who have been interviewed on Sandy Hook or other tragedies. I don’t know. Something weird about that guy.

[Carriage Hill]

“Comment #12 Removed by Moderator”

Darn; missed it.

[Uncle Chip]

He maintains that the first LEOs on the scene with an active shooter shooting up a school committing mass murder would neatly park their car in a parking lot in a line with the rest of the cars.]

Unfortunately for you there is a lot of video of the school that morning showing exactly that -- but you think people here are too moronic to look at it for themselves.

[knarf]

Gone from my list also ... and I can't remember what it was.

I don't THINK I said anything remove worthy ... but I'm no mod

I've asctually been VERY careful what I say and how I word it because I DON'T want the thread pulled nor any comments deleted.

Maybe it's a conspiracy ?

/8^)

[johnsmom]

Sandy Hook DA cites ‘potential suspects,’ fears witness safety

Dated 2/5/13
Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342829#ixzz2KKUNz3nE

[Cyber Liberty]

You’re “Class of ‘98” and you are asking if believers of Sandy Hook conspiracies are being banned?

[knarf]

"Which brings up a question I have. How could an entire town participate in an alleged hoax of this magnitude without someone coming forward and blowing the whistle on it?"

Every mortgage paid off, every job secure, every financial need met ...

Stroke o'the pen, law o'the land, kind'a cool, eh ?

[Kansas58]

This is insanity.

There is no way to “hoax” anything this big.

[opentalk]

video, Anderson Cooper's nose disappears