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Top G.O.P. Donors Seek Greater Say in Senate Races (Rove Targets Tea Party)
The New York Times ^ | Saturday, February 2, 2013 | Jeff Zeleny

Posted on 02/03/2013 8:15:49 AM PST by kristinn

The biggest donors in the Republican Party are financing a new group to recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s efforts to win control of the Senate.

The group, the Conservative Victory Project, is intended to counter other organizations that have helped defeat establishment Republican candidates over the last two election cycles. It is the most robust attempt yet by Republicans to impose a new sense of discipline on the party, particularly in primary races.

“There is a broad concern about having blown a significant number of races because the wrong candidates were selected,” said Steven J. Law, the president of American Crossroads, the “super PAC” creating the new project. “We don’t view ourselves as being in the incumbent protection business, but we want to pick the most conservative candidate who can win.”

The effort would put a new twist on the Republican-vs.-Republican warfare that has consumed the party’s primary races in recent years. In effect, the establishment is taking steps to fight back against Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations that have wielded significant influence in backing candidates who ultimately lost seats to Democrats in the general election.

The first test of the group’s effort to influence primary races could come here in Iowa, where some Republicans are already worrying about who will run for the seat being vacated by Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat. It is the first open Senate seat in Iowa since 1974, and Republicans are fearful of squandering a rare opportunity.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: kristinn

They call themselve the Conservative Victory Party but they don’t want any tea party conservatives...?


41 posted on 02/03/2013 10:50:28 AM PST by Leep (Are you smarter than a 7th grade math student and or Barack 0bama?)
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To: kristinn

This is war between the corporate fascists who contribute to BOTH parties (to which the RNC and their consultants respond) and the limited-government grass roots. Conservatives are stingy while consultants make their money on the basis of booking advertising and other expenses. Hence the internal divide.


42 posted on 02/03/2013 10:58:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is in charge. There has never been a conservative Republican government.)
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To: kristinn
Tokyo Rove should just go away.
43 posted on 02/03/2013 11:16:05 AM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Nextrush
We need two real conservatives ready to run in every race.

That sounds like a plan. Will pass it along to my Tea Party group.

44 posted on 02/03/2013 11:21:43 AM PST by WVNan
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To: kristinn

I have a suggestion for the Republican candidate for Mass Senator to replace John Kerry, this guy.

Robert A. Hall is an actor. He plays the coroner on CSI if you watch that show. He also is a Marine Vietnam War veteran, but does not mention that he had his legs blown off in that war.
This should be required reading for every man, woman and child in the United States of America .

“I’m 63 and I’m Tired”by Robert A. Hall

I’m 63. Except for one semester in college when jobs were scarce and a six-month period when I was between jobs, but job-hunting every day, I’ve worked hard since I was 18. Despite some health challenges, I still put in 50-hour weeks, and haven’t called in sick in seven or eight years. I make a good salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, there’s no retirement in sight, and I’m tired. Very tired.

I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.

I’m tired of being told that I have to pay more taxes to “keep people in their homes.” Sure, if they lost their jobs or got sick, I’m willing to help. But if they bought Mc Mansions at three times the price of our paid-off, $250,000 condo, on one-third of my salary, then let the left-wing Congress-critters who passed Fannie and Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act that created the bubble use their own money to help them.

I’m tired of being told how bad America is by left-wing millionaires like Michael Moore, George Soros and Hollywood Entertainers who live in luxury because of the opportunities America provided to them. In thirty years, if they get their way, the United States will have:
1. the economy of Zimbabwe,
2. the freedom of the press of China
3. the crime and violence of Mexico,
4. the tolerance for Christian people of Iran
5. the freedom of speech of Venezuela ..

I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor”; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers”; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery”; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Sharia’s law tells them to.

I’m tired of being told that “race doesn’t matter” in the post-racial world of Obama, when it’s all that matters in affirmative action jobs, lower college admission and graduation standards for minorities (harming them the most), government contract set-asides, tolerance for the ghetto culture of violence and fatherless children that hurts minorities more than anyone, and in the appointment of U.S. Senators from Illinois.

I think it’s very cool that we have a black president and that a black child is doing her homework at the desk where Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation. I just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less arrogantly in an all-knowing government.

I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must not complain when Saudi Arabia uses the money we pay for their oil to fund mosques and madras Islamic schools to preach hate in America, while no American group is allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia to teach love and tolerance.

I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate. My wife and I live in a two-bedroom apartment and carpool together five miles to our jobs. We also own a three-bedroom condo where our daughter and granddaughter live. Our carbon footprint is about 5% of Al Gore’s, and if you’re greener than Gore, you’re green enough.

I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses while they tried to fight it off? I don’t think gay people choose to be gay, but I #@*# sure think druggies chose to take drugs. And I’m tired of harassment from “cool” people treating me like a freak when I tell them I never tried marijuana.

I’m tired of illegal aliens being called “undocumented workers,” especially those who aren’t working, but living on welfare or crime. What’s next? Calling drug dealers, “Undocumented Pharmacists”? And, no, I’m not against Hispanics. Most of them are Catholic, and it’s been a few hundred years since Catholics wanted to kill me for my religion. I’m willing to fast track citizenship for any Hispanic who can speak English, doesn’t have a criminal record and who is self-supporting without family on welfare, or who serves honorably for three years in our military. Those are the kind of citizens we need.

I’m tired of the trashing of our military by latte liberals and journalists, who would never wear the uniform of the Republic themselves, or let their entitlement-handicapped kids near a recruiting station. They and their kids can sit at home, never having to make split-second decisions under life and death circumstances, and bad mouth better people than themselves. Do bad things happen in war? You bet. Do our troops sometimes misbehave? Sure. Does this compare with the atrocities that were the policy of our enemies for the last fifty years and still are? Not even close. So here’s a deal for those folks. I’ll let myself be subjected to all the humiliation and abuse that was heaped on terrorists at Abu Ghraib or Gitmo, while the critics of our military can be subject to captivity by the Muslims, who tortured and beheaded Daniel Pearl in Pakistan, or the Muslims who tortured and murdered Marine Lt. Col. William Higgins in Lebanon, or the Muslims who ran the blood-spattered Al Qaeda torture rooms our troops found in Iraq, or the Muslims who cut off the heads of schoolgirls in Indonesia because the girls were Christian — then we’ll compare notes. British and American soldiers are the only troops in history that civilians came to for help and handouts, instead of hiding from in fear.

I’m tired of people telling me that their party has a corner on virtue and the other party has a corner on corruption. Read the papers; bums are bipartisan. And I’m tired of people telling me we need bipartisanship. I live in Illinois , where the “Illinois Combine” of Democrats has looted the public treasury for years. Not to mention the tax cheats in Obama’s cabinet.

I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of both parties talking about “innocent” mistakes, “stupid” mistakes or “youthful” mistakes, when all of us know they think their only mistake was getting caught.

Speaking of poor, I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement who have air-conditioned homes, color TVs and two cars called poor. The majority of Americans didn’t have that in 1970, but we didn’t know we were “poor.” The poverty pimps have to keep changing the definition of poor to keep the dollars flowing.

I’m real tired of people, rich or poor, who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.

Yes, I’m tired, but I’m also glad to be 63, mostly because I’m not going to have to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter.

Robert A. Hall is a Marine Vietnam veteran who served five terms in the Massachusetts State Senate.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!


45 posted on 02/03/2013 11:28:26 AM PST by Eva
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To: kristinn

Not Louie Gohmert?


46 posted on 02/03/2013 11:38:17 AM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: kristinn

I think we will truly be moving toward a robust third party.


47 posted on 02/03/2013 12:16:05 PM PST by marsh2
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To: kristinn

All you really need to know about this bunch of snivellers is that Dingy Harry Reid would be gone if they had sucked it up and supported Sharon Angle. Rove and his band of geniuses give whining a bad name and now they want to corrupt the word “conservative”. It’s necessary to make them define conservative every time they mouth-shoot.


48 posted on 02/03/2013 2:08:49 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: kristinn

I have no problem with donors selecting whom they give money to.


49 posted on 02/03/2013 2:32:17 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: SeminoleCounty

I don’t think its wise to attack Karl Rove. He may be right and if he is he deserves a chance to throw his money and talent at the wall in trying.

I would just ask that he try to avoid stepping upon our toes. Until then I won’t lift a finger in opposition to his melding.


50 posted on 02/03/2013 2:35:05 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: kristinn
In other words, "the biggest donors" don't care all that much as to which political party continues funding to keep their relatives in government, government-linked and NGO incomes. Otherwise, they'd fear that voters would elect their politicians' opponents despite their big donations. Either way, they win, while most voters lose.

America’s Ruling Class — And the Perils of Revolution
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

The Fragmenting of the New Class Elites, or, Downward Mobility
http://volokh.com/2011/10/31/the-fragmenting-of-the-new-class-elites-or-downward-mobility/

Environmentalism and the Leisure Class
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2835601/posts

The New Upper Class and the Real Reason We Dislike Them
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843575/posts

Are you a member of the political class?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/are_you_a_member_of_the_politi.html


51 posted on 02/03/2013 2:43:15 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: eCSMaster

Your Post #19 is spot-on.

Akin and Mourdock were both not ready for primetime candidates. Both also suffered from poorly-run campaigns, the former of whose campaign was run by his WIFE!

Throw in Sharron Angle’s race for the Senate in 2010 AND Joe Miller’s campaign in Alaska (in 2010) and we have to admit that we need better candidates.

That’s why I’m optimistic about guys like Ted Cruz. The guy is good and articulates himself very well. With more candidates like him, the Tea Party will be just fine.


52 posted on 02/03/2013 3:15:07 PM PST by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: kristinn

Well, if there was any doubt about Rove, he put paid to that...
Hope they have lots of deep pocketed, RINO fat cats...
Ain’t gunna come from this hardworking, conservative, Catholic family.


53 posted on 02/03/2013 3:33:11 PM PST by matginzac
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To: kristinn

LOL. If Karl Rove is involved, we have nothing to worry about. He has turned into one of the most inept stratagists since the 2004 election. He’s almost as bad as Morris.


54 posted on 02/03/2013 4:18:17 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Eva

There are two Robert Halls. The one on CSI is NOT the author of this letter.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/imtired.asp


55 posted on 02/03/2013 5:05:46 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Thanks, I guess that I should have checked.


56 posted on 02/03/2013 5:51:28 PM PST by Eva
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To: kristinn

Rove will never win anyone a national election again.


57 posted on 02/03/2013 5:58:26 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: kristinn; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; campaignPete R-CT; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; ...

We need conservatives who are also strong candidates.

Establishment hacks (Tommy Thompson, Connie Mack IV) and weak conservatives who run crap races (Sharron Angle, Richard Mourdock) are both bad and cost us victory.


58 posted on 02/04/2013 12:22:24 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: kristinn

Steve King should be our first line of defense:

http://steveking.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4517:king-op-ed-in-the-washington-times-the-constitution-always-trumps-politics&catid=57:columns&Itemid=300164&Itemid=300099

Above is his article, The Constitution always Trumps Politics


59 posted on 02/04/2013 1:30:10 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: kristinn; DungeonMaster

Instead of learning from experience and working with the conservative base, Karl F’n Rove and the GOP-E desperately cling to their big-government, Democrat-Lite dreams of grandeur.

In other words, they’re playing right into the Democrat plan to fracture the R party.

Makes me wonder if they secretly hope to unite with the Marxists in the end. Either that or, they really are so stupid as to think the slightly-to-the-right-of-Obama position can win over the “independents” while conservatives continue to blindly pull the R lever.


60 posted on 02/04/2013 7:54:58 AM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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