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Five Dead; Teen Accused In Killing Spree (NM-Son shoots entire family)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | January 21, 2013 | Jeff Proctor and Patrick Lohmann

Posted on 01/21/2013 6:53:58 AM PST by CedarDave

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The article goes on to detail the shooting chronology and the fact that the boy "may have had violent fantasies including killing and murder-suicide scenarios for much of his life" and the guns were kept in a closet and not in a gun safe.

A tragedy to be sure, but if a young male teen is possibly mentally unstable and with the guns not properly secured, much responsibility rests with the parents.

1 posted on 01/21/2013 6:54:18 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: lowbridge

Link to earlier news thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980101/posts


2 posted on 01/21/2013 6:57:17 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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Oh, here we go, and a troika for libs... a HOMESCHOOLED kid who happened to be raised in a CHRISTIAN environment, kills his family with an ASSAULT RIFLE.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 6:58:37 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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4 posted on 01/21/2013 7:01:17 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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The suspect in custody is the couple’s 15-year-old son, Nehemiah Griego, who authorities believe shot and killed his mother

In the NY Daily News story, it's his father's wife. Important detail to sort out.

5 posted on 01/21/2013 7:03:49 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: CedarDave
A tragedy to be sure, but if a young male teen is possibly mentally unstable and with the guns not properly secured, much responsibility rests with the parents.

The parents should really pay for this mistake. Oh, wait; never mind.

6 posted on 01/21/2013 7:05:31 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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The lesson to be learned here is obvious:

Store your weapons securely in a home with children, especially if one appears to have mental problems.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 7:07:39 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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Another seriously messed-up kid needing help or incarceration and not getting it.

Another family in denial and ignoring obvious trouble brewing.

The guns aren't even an issue here. Had they been locked up the freak would have used a kitchen knife. Or doused them with gasoline and set them on fire.

I once had to "baby-sit" a teenaged boy when his mom (my friend's girlfriend) insisted on dragging him along to a ball game. I was the only unattached person in the group so I got the short straw. Anyway, this kid turned out to be a monster. He sat sullenly the whole time drawing sketches of murder and mayhem, including detailed sketches of actual people in the stadium sitting near to us being killed by torture. All he would talk about was death and killing. I was stuck talking with him for half a day and as far as I could tell he had NO other interests.

Long story short, had I been his dad I'd have had him evaluated for commitment. There is NO WAY I'd have wanted him loose in public. Or in my house. I wouldn't have let him near a sharp stick, let alone a gun. Of course when I broached the issue with my friend I was told that I was way out of line, he's just a kid, it's a stage, butt out. I hope they were right. But I wouldn't take a chance like that.

8 posted on 01/21/2013 7:12:34 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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Sorry, but I cannot help but wonder if this weapon was of the Fast and Furious variety.
9 posted on 01/21/2013 7:13:50 AM PST by Artcore
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To: ScottinVA

Further evidence that a family can do their best and the worst still happens...

Prayers for those left behind


10 posted on 01/21/2013 7:14:30 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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“Oh, here we go, and a troika for libs... a HOMESCHOOLED kid who happened to be raised in a CHRISTIAN environment, kills his family with an ASSAULT RIFLE.”
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Isn't it amazing how Liberals fall all over themselves to make any type of negative connection to anything Christian, while ignoring the blatant obvious violence, and human rights violations of radial Islam.

Progressives really are cowardly maggots.

11 posted on 01/21/2013 7:18:12 AM PST by Artcore
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so okay what is pa doing out at 1 am, what is pa doing having remarried, which is not biblical, and did the step mother break up the 15 year olds’ original family? Not saying it is an excuse, just saying pa’s misbehavior had consequences.

These “pastors” thinking God brought a woman than other than their living spouse and out carousing.........


12 posted on 01/21/2013 7:21:41 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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“and with the guns not properly secured”

Be careful what you ask for. Imagine what a federally mandated “safe storage” system would be?

For the Feds, they spec a Class 5 safe when locking up handguns. And then if they spec a centralized alarm system with video, very few of us could afford that for a Buckmark and an 1100.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:59 AM PST by DBrow
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Oh, here we go, and a troika for libs... a HOMESCHOOLED kid who happened to be raised in a CHRISTIAN environment, kills his family with an ASSAULT RIFLE.

Wow, this is absolute proof of what libs have been saying all along. The discussion is closed. /s

This might lead to further investigation of the possibility that being raised in a two parent family environment (if one parent is female and one is male) may be harmful for children.

14 posted on 01/21/2013 7:34:49 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: jboot
Thanks to the ACLU, the rules of commitment have set barriers that are hard to meet and therefore give little protection to the innocent. In addition to the strict rules, insurance company treatment and limitations on the payment for same cause many who need treatment to go untreated. Mental illness is very real. Just because we can't physically see a visible wound or detect an underlying cause, we tend to ignore it. Sadly this incident is a consequence of same. I know of no sure way to prevent these horrible events from happening - they will, from time to time, occur no matter what precautions we take.
15 posted on 01/21/2013 7:39:12 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: CedarDave

For some reason, Satan really wants the American people defanged, and the old deceiver is throwing everything he has at getting it done.


16 posted on 01/21/2013 7:42:23 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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From the ABJ’s link at the story:

“Greg Griego was a longtime pastor, known for helping former and current inmates, as well as troubled youths.

Griego had converted his backyard barn into a halfway house for released prisoners, according to neighbors. He also held services at the county jail’s “God Pod,” where he gave inmates spiritual advice.

Griego was a former gang member, according to an article posted on the Prison Fellowship website.

He is also the brother of former Democratic state Sen. Eric Griego....”


17 posted on 01/21/2013 7:43:38 AM PST by blu
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>> charged with... three counts of child abuse resulting in death

WTF? Why are the childrens’ deaths not murder one as well?


18 posted on 01/21/2013 7:46:03 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Not sure that comment in the headline is correct: ‘entire family’.

Per an article yesterday, the family had 10 kids. It didn’t say whether any of them were ‘natural’ or adopted, nor their ages, nor which ones were living at home.

Also, per one report, the perp did not use a gun to kill the 3 children. The implication was that he ‘abused’ [beat] them to death.

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As I posted in an earlier thread, this was a crime of rage.

And, if it is true that the 3 children were not shot to death, that would surely mess up the Lib/Left/Dem/MSM agenda.


19 posted on 01/21/2013 7:47:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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“do their best”? What evidence do you have to make a claim like that?


20 posted on 01/21/2013 7:50:44 AM PST by Fuzz
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