Posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
You’re visiting your doctor because you have flu symptoms. After checking your heart, pulse and other vital signs, your doctor turns to you and asks, “By the way, the federal government has authorized me to ask you, What type and how many guns do you have in your home?”
Sounds like George Orwell’s “1984”? Wrong. It’s 2013. And if President Barack Obama gets his way by executive order, doctors across the country could play a key role in his new gun control initiative.
On Wednesday morning, Obama released a sweeping 23 executive actions and orders he will take to limit gun usage. Already, talk of the executive orders has raised significant controversy. Order 16, for example, may raise serious concerns with privacy advocates. The order, as summarized, simply states federal agencies will “clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.” …
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Thanks for the laugh Megan.
Majorities of people in rough neighborhoods are surely beginning to dislike him. “Authorities” administering local governments, swimming in federal funding, are probably loving him more every day.
Step 1: meet with your lawyer and set up a gun trust (either title 1 or title 2 NFA)
2: put all of your firearms on a schedule A or B within the trust.
3: When doc or any agent of the state ask if you own guns, legally and ethically you can say, "My wife and I do not personally own firearms". ( because the property is a trust asset)
I can barely wait to tell my doctor to mind his own business.
Then you would be making the wrong assumption. They are already doing this, even in Idaho. I just draw a line through the question on the form and nothing more is said.
My 20 hour work day yesterday, flu ridden, pms riddled body thanks you for the first laugh I have had in days. Salute.
I guess I’m lucky. My doc and I talk about guns all the time, and motorcycles.
A number of electronic medical records systems automatically include this question, “Do you have guns in your home?” If yes, you get a safety lecture in the name of health and safety.
Nice desk chair.
Just lie your ass off and say "none". Make the feds snoop by other means.
I know a lot of doctors and CNP’s. None of them have time for this silly BS. this is completely ineffectual political theater designed to pressure congress into doing what the President can not, ban assault rifles and high cap mags.
In Ohio, my 91 year old mother has been asked about "guns in the house" every time she sees a new doctor.
Other concerns in terms of the expansion of mental health and abuse of it as a source of disability income:
* A huge number of returning vets are claiming PTSD and depression to get VA and disability benefits. It isn’t a short step to excluding these vets from owning weapons.
* A sizable fraction of young men received ADD / ADHD medication. Why not ban them from owning weapons?
“Do you have a gun?”
“Why, doctor! I feel compelled to report to the state board that you have made sexual advances toward me. Any other questions?”
Just wait for the malpractice suits should a doctor not ask such questions of someone who later commits a firearms related murder/suicide.
Secondly, with electronic records, the software may not allow an examination/consultation record to be submitted unless all required fields have been entered.
Finally, the current crop of legacy doctors and related healthcare professionals are not immortal, they will retire and/or exit the profession.
. . . . Check out Article.
Then comments at # 13 , # 33 , # 40 , also see graphic at # 27.
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Excerpt from 2009 article:
In 1930's Germany, the new socialist government of Adolf Hitler (NAZI National Socialist Workers' Party) began indoctrinating children in the quasi-military organization, the Hitler Youth, to inform on their parents should they overhear discussions subversive to the policies of the Leader.
As the noose was tightened, local community organizers were appointed to watch their neighbors and were told to report subversive comments to the bureaucrats above them. Neighbors informed on neighbors, some for reasons of patriotism or loyalty, some from fear. A modern inquisition ensued; a terror to free thought and expression. Increasingly harsh penalties were meted out to those who dared to dissent.
The socialist governments of the Soviet Union, Fascist Italy, N. Korea, Cuba, Yugoslavia, and the People's Republic of China employed the same citizen informer techniques. Citizens of those societies were reduced to either silence or whispered discussion only among those they trusted the most. Of course none of those things would ever occur here in the land of the free.
But wait...
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/citizen_informants.html
In that case that federal health insurance you are being forced to pay for declines payment.
Doctors already ask women if they are being abused by husbands or boyfriends and if anyone in their households are smokers. I’ve seen social pathologies taught, not only in English, psych., soc. and other departments, but also in various kinds of medical schools. During job-related visits, I’ve seen bizarre social pathologies acted out in ERs by too many obviously queer doctors and nurses on drugs. Too many of them are criminals.
Our nation is morally bankrupt. You’ll see economic and other consequences of that problem before long.
Someone I know was asked "Do you have ACCESS to guns". This would render moot your ability to answer negatively and honestly based on your trust. However, when it comes to this kind of thing I believe duplicity is the best policy.
The trouble with that, or any other snarky or evasive response, is that the doctor can put whatever he wants in your medical records and you'll never know. You'll just be a big red flag in a government database. And coming from a family of doctors and having met many doctors through them I can assure you there are a lot of very thinned skinned, egotistical doctors out there. Better to just bite your tounge and say "no".
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