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Obama: Doctors Should Ask About Guns in Homes
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 11:58 AM | Jim Meyers

Posted on 01/16/2013 9:53:02 AM PST by Olog-hai

You’re visiting your doctor because you have flu symptoms. After checking your heart, pulse and other vital signs, your doctor turns to you and asks, “By the way, the federal government has authorized me to ask you, What type and how many guns do you have in your home?”

Sounds like George Orwell’s “1984”? Wrong. It’s 2013. And if President Barack Obama gets his way by executive order, doctors across the country could play a key role in his new gun control initiative.

On Wednesday morning, Obama released a sweeping 23 executive actions and orders he will take to limit gun usage. Already, talk of the executive orders has raised significant controversy. Order 16, for example, may raise serious concerns with privacy advocates. The order, as summarized, simply states federal agencies will “clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.” …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; obamacareguns; obamagunpresser; secondamendment
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To: MeganC

Thanks for the laugh Megan.


61 posted on 01/16/2013 10:43:06 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: Olog-hai

Majorities of people in rough neighborhoods are surely beginning to dislike him. “Authorities” administering local governments, swimming in federal funding, are probably loving him more every day.


62 posted on 01/16/2013 10:44:01 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Rusty0604
What do you do? What do you tell your doctor?!

Step 1: meet with your lawyer and set up a gun trust (either title 1 or title 2 NFA)

2: put all of your firearms on a schedule A or B within the trust.

3: When doc or any agent of the state ask if you own guns, legally and ethically you can say, "My wife and I do not personally own firearms". ( because the property is a trust asset)

63 posted on 01/16/2013 10:47:47 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Look for the UNION label.....then buy something else!)
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To: Olog-hai

I can barely wait to tell my doctor to mind his own business.


64 posted on 01/16/2013 10:48:24 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I am assuming this is talking about psychiatrists or other doctors dealing with the mentally ill and not your friendly neighborhood family doctor giving you a checkup and a flu shot.

Then you would be making the wrong assumption. They are already doing this, even in Idaho. I just draw a line through the question on the form and nothing more is said.

65 posted on 01/16/2013 10:51:30 AM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: MeganC

My 20 hour work day yesterday, flu ridden, pms riddled body thanks you for the first laugh I have had in days. Salute.


66 posted on 01/16/2013 10:51:50 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: Olog-hai

I guess I’m lucky. My doc and I talk about guns all the time, and motorcycles.


67 posted on 01/16/2013 10:52:21 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Olog-hai

A number of electronic medical records systems automatically include this question, “Do you have guns in your home?” If yes, you get a safety lecture in the name of health and safety.


68 posted on 01/16/2013 10:53:13 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Iron Munro

Nice desk chair.


69 posted on 01/16/2013 10:55:23 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: Terry Mross
While that may feel good to say, it's stupid. Saying that is the same as as saying "yes".

Just lie your ass off and say "none". Make the feds snoop by other means.

70 posted on 01/16/2013 10:56:19 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: fso301

I know a lot of doctors and CNP’s. None of them have time for this silly BS. this is completely ineffectual political theater designed to pressure congress into doing what the President can not, ban assault rifles and high cap mags.


71 posted on 01/16/2013 10:58:25 AM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
WRONG! It IS about your friendly neighborhood doctor giving you a check up.

In Ohio, my 91 year old mother has been asked about "guns in the house" every time she sees a new doctor.

72 posted on 01/16/2013 11:01:31 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Robert357

Other concerns in terms of the expansion of mental health and abuse of it as a source of disability income:
* A huge number of returning vets are claiming PTSD and depression to get VA and disability benefits. It isn’t a short step to excluding these vets from owning weapons.
* A sizable fraction of young men received ADD / ADHD medication. Why not ban them from owning weapons?


73 posted on 01/16/2013 11:02:09 AM PST by tbw2
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To: circlecity

“Do you have a gun?”

“Why, doctor! I feel compelled to report to the state board that you have made sexual advances toward me. Any other questions?”


74 posted on 01/16/2013 11:04:00 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: RC one
I know a lot of doctors and CNP’s. None of them have time for this silly BS. this is completely ineffectual political theater designed to pressure congress into doing what the President can not, ban assault rifles and high cap mags.

Just wait for the malpractice suits should a doctor not ask such questions of someone who later commits a firearms related murder/suicide.

Secondly, with electronic records, the software may not allow an examination/consultation record to be submitted unless all required fields have been entered.

Finally, the current crop of legacy doctors and related healthcare professionals are not immortal, they will retire and/or exit the profession.

75 posted on 01/16/2013 11:06:55 AM PST by fso301
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To: Olog-hai; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; KC_Lion; Godzilla; Domestic Church; ...
Obama: Doctors Should Ask About Guns in Homes

. . . . Check out Article.

Then comments at # 13 , # 33 , # 40 , also see graphic at # 27.

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Excerpt from 2009 article:

In 1930's Germany, the new socialist government of Adolf Hitler (NAZI National Socialist Workers' Party) began indoctrinating children in the quasi-military organization, the Hitler Youth, to inform on their parents should they overhear discussions subversive to the policies of the Leader.

As the noose was tightened, local community organizers were appointed to watch their neighbors and were told to report subversive comments to the bureaucrats above them. Neighbors informed on neighbors, some for reasons of patriotism or loyalty, some from fear. A modern inquisition ensued; a terror to free thought and expression. Increasingly harsh penalties were meted out to those who dared to dissent.

The socialist governments of the Soviet Union, Fascist Italy, N. Korea, Cuba, Yugoslavia, and the People's Republic of China employed the same citizen informer techniques. Citizens of those societies were reduced to either silence or whispered discussion only among those they trusted the most. Of course none of those things would ever occur here in the land of the free.

But wait...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/citizen_informants.html

76 posted on 01/16/2013 11:10:22 AM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Terry Mross
Well, Doc, God authorized me to tell you it’s none of your damned business and do what you’re being paid to do.

In that case that federal health insurance you are being forced to pay for declines payment.

77 posted on 01/16/2013 11:10:59 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Olog-hai

Doctors already ask women if they are being abused by husbands or boyfriends and if anyone in their households are smokers. I’ve seen social pathologies taught, not only in English, psych., soc. and other departments, but also in various kinds of medical schools. During job-related visits, I’ve seen bizarre social pathologies acted out in ERs by too many obviously queer doctors and nurses on drugs. Too many of them are criminals.

Our nation is morally bankrupt. You’ll see economic and other consequences of that problem before long.


78 posted on 01/16/2013 11:11:14 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: DCBryan1
3: When doc or any agent of the state ask if you own guns

Someone I know was asked "Do you have ACCESS to guns". This would render moot your ability to answer negatively and honestly based on your trust. However, when it comes to this kind of thing I believe duplicity is the best policy.

79 posted on 01/16/2013 11:12:19 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Wordkraft
“Why, doctor! I feel compelled to report to the state board that you have made sexual advances toward me. Any other questions?”

The trouble with that, or any other snarky or evasive response, is that the doctor can put whatever he wants in your medical records and you'll never know. You'll just be a big red flag in a government database. And coming from a family of doctors and having met many doctors through them I can assure you there are a lot of very thinned skinned, egotistical doctors out there. Better to just bite your tounge and say "no".

80 posted on 01/16/2013 11:13:18 AM PST by circlecity
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