Posted on 01/14/2013 6:31:50 PM PST by FR_addict
ALBANY (CBSNewYork) The New York State Legislature was poised Monday night to pass the first gun control measure following the Newtown school massacre. This as the vice president was set to unveil federal proposals to end gun violence on Tuesday.
Albany lawmakers have reportedly ironed out the kinks, allowing them to enact new gun control measures in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting. Assuming the new bill passes it was sent to both house of the Legislature on Monday night it will turn into the toughest set of gun control laws in the country. ...
The new state legislation will:
* Limit ammunition clips to seven. Its now 10
* Force gun owners to renew their licenses every five years
* Stiffen penalties for using a gun in the commission of a crime
* Stiffen penalties for bringing a gun on school property
* New restrictions on the assault weapons already owned by New Yorkers
They will be basically not permitted to be transferred. They will be grandfathered in but not in terms of a transfer. There will be a registry, Silver said.
(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...
Bill Reilich talks about his son’s friend dying from a gun shot. The person was mentally disturbed. This bill is not going to stop this person or the man with the box cutters, or the hammer, etc. The focus should be on the problems, (mental health) not guns.
Supposedly, you don’t have to turn your gun in just register it. Same with over 10 round magazines, except have to turn in pre 1994 magazines.
Have to put only 7 rounds in the 10 round magazine.
In the Obama care bill
Government cannot collect any information relating to the lawful ownership of guns
So you're saying that the state can violate the law under Obama Care.
So increased penalties on crimes not in effect for 60 days, but cracking down on legal ownership immediately.
Would some New Yorker please take these assholes to court.
Surely this “infringes” on your right to keep and bear arms?
Looked up the law under ObamaCare:
http://wizbangblog.com/2013/01/10/obamacare-amendment-does-not-forbid-gun-and-ammo-registration/
“The problem is that Senate amendment 3276, Sec. 2716, part c.only relates to the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare):
(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS- A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to`(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or`(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.`(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION- None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;`(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or`(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.`(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS- None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.`(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE- A premium rate may not be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied, and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or`(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.`(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS- No individual shall be required to disclose any information under any data collection activity authorized under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act relating to`(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or`(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition..
In a nutshell, under Obamacare you cant be required to provide information to doctors or health plans about legally owned guns, nor can your insurance rates be affected by such ownership. The government, in the execution of Obamacare, cannot collect information about or use information from other government databases about legally owned guns.”
Assuming that this site is right and it refers only to doctors or health plans, what about doctors who are going to diagnose whether we are crazy or not. Seems like NY is still violating the law to turn the person in for gun ownership.
I’m already seeing some initial steps in this direction. I don’t know that any lawsuits will succeed in NY, but they will be filed. (We’ve been trying the Legal angle for a while in NY - the liberal judges make it difficult, but we keep trying. For instance, there’s a case in Westchester that challenges the downstate requirement of “just cause” for a licensed gun owner to carry. It’s been going through the courts for quite a while, step by step. The latest ruling was against the plaintiffs, but that wasn’t a surprise & it’s now being appealed.)
I was impressed with the Republicans!
They did a good job, just not enough of them in the Assembly.
Sheldon Silver is a mouthpiece for the lawsuit industry, too.
Come to Florida. No state income tax and the best gun laws outside of Vermont and Alaska in the nation. They call us the Gun-shine State for a reason. Better weather here too.
In context!.. He has the GUTS to challenge the black imperial president!
1st, no Jew died during the days of darkness, the darkness occured only among the Egyptians (see vs.Ex.10:23)
2nd. The Jews are said to have come out in armies in Ex. 12:51).
Thus, Ex.13:18 tells us that they came out 'harnessed',(by fives) in other words, by ranks.
So, in the beginning of your comment you state that the Hebrew can only mean 'armed' but then state that it can also mean 'divided by five'.
That is how the KJB translated it, hence the word 'harnessed'.
Other modern versions have 'orderly ranks' (NKJ) or 'martial array'(NAU).
The point being they left in order not as a mob.
I’m quoting Rashi.
The topic answered the question of a photo caption indicating Jews came out of Egypt armed.
Someone asked for the Biblical reference.
I responded, noting it was a Jewish translation at variance with the KJV.
I realize Jew-hating idol-worshippers have alternative views of straightforward Jewish texts.
just clicked on an article link on my ‘My Yahoo’ page to this piece
New York set to pass nation’s toughest gun-control law
http://news.yahoo.com/ny-seals-1st-state-gun-laws-since-newtown-074653716.html
The pop-up window came up and said
fail
ironic.. or predictive?
They have pic with Cuomo and his mouth wide open pointing at someone .. probably his celebrity babefriend with her ar15 cupcake duster
Eeegghhh.. I’d ban those.
The Hebrew can also refer to 'fives' as well, as you yourself noted.
So, what was being pointed out was not arms, but organization.
The KJB translation was correct.
Save the venom.
They are dead to me.....
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