Background checks are not supposed to be retained AT ALL.
Form 4473 is supposed to be retained by the FFL for 20 years.
Posted on 01/10/2013 1:01:31 PM PST by Nachum
Vice President Joe Biden, in remarks today before a meeting on guns, suggested the Obama administration is seriously considering outlawing unregulated "private" gun sales:"And so the kinds of things that there´s an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me but coming from the groups we´ve met with," said Biden today, before a closed door meeting on gun control. "And I´m going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership and the type of weapons can be owned. And one is,
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Right now the forms have to be kept by FFLs for 20 years before they can be destroyed and the government only has access to them as part of criminal investigations.
However, if the FFL goes out of business, the FFL has to turn the forms over to the feds immediately. A lot of people don't know that.
IMHO they will try and make a play to put all these forms into a government database “for the sake of our children”.
Since private sales skirt the form 4473, they will first focus on private sales.
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Biden is an enemy of the people.
Background checks are not supposed to be retained AT ALL.
Form 4473 is supposed to be retained by the FFL for 20 years.
Here in SC when you go to a gun show folks walk around with signs on their backs advertising whatever they brought with them to sell and tables are set up for private sales of guns. The result they are looking for is to make it criminal to have those private sale tables and to bring your own guns to sell by just hanging the rifle on your shoulder with a price tag or even for handguns.
Currently we are allowed to sell or trade guns privately and a gun show is a good place to market them without the instrusion of the government. If this passes we will have to worry about undercover federal cops trying to entrap us.
Good luck Joe. What part of private sale did you not understand ? Nobody knows about it moron.
Joe, we will not comply. Go pound it.
That is true as far as it goes.
One must obtain a permit from the Sheriff to purchase a pistol. This requires filling out a questionnaire, paying a $10 fee. The Sheriff does a background check with the State NCIS. If approved, you are issued a permit to buy, signed by the Sheriff. You don't have to use it or turn it back unused but it does have an expiration date. It is not specific for any gun, but it can only be used to buy a single handgun whether from a public or private seller. If it is from a private seller, the seller keeps the permit after the sale. If it is an FFL, he keeps the permit with his records.
There is no requirement to either file the permit with the Sheriff or buyer/seller (private sale) to register the firearm or turn in any paperwork afterward. The seller is supposed to keep the permit, indefinitely, to show it was a legitimate sale if he is ever asked.
Alternatively, if one has a CHL license issued it is signed by the Sheriff. The background checks have already been done so one does not need the $10 permit to buy a handgun. The CHL allows him to buy any amount of handguns off a private or FFL seller. The CHL holder must show the private seller his CHL but no paperwork is exchanged. Likewise, there is no record of the transaction except a bill of sale or whatever is exchanged by the buyer and seller.
That's pretty loose. Hardly draconian.
Rifles and shotguns are completely unregulated unless buying/selling through an FFL in which case he does an NCIS check and fills out the standard BATF forms.
Now these fiends want to put every honest citizen in a straighjacket with everything registered. It won't "solve" any problems, but that is not the point. The point is stifling sales and registration, which leads ultimately to either heavy taxation or confiscation.
If one needs a poster child, go admire New York City, Washington DC, or Chicago. It has worked out very well for the criminals and the city governments (but, I repeat myself) but not the honest citizens.
The *only* way private gun sales can be regulated is that if *both* the seller and the buyer, *and* the gun, are registered with the government.
And I don’t mean just a background check where the government either requires gun sellers to preserve all the information so it can be obtained at government request; or conveniently “forgets” to not destroy the information when it is supposed to.
I’m talking full registration.
Private handgun sales or transfers in NC have required a permit for close to 20 years now.And how many NC gun owners have transferred a handgun to a friend or family member without bothering about the permit?
“universal registration is in the plans”
A government mandate that gun owners voluntarily register their firearms would be not only less onerous, but less successful then the attempts of states to get citizens to report internet purchases on their tax forms so that sales taxes are paid.
When government overreaches itself, it erodes respect for the law. As it is that `respect’ is already set on a pretty low bar.
Think you’re gonna do that Joe? “Shall not be infringed” means just that. Brain damaged plug infested moron.
Even the law abiding Canadians would not register their long guns -— and the rising costs helped turn out their Administration.
In NC you give the permit to the person you bought the gun from, it is not registered.
In NC you give the permit to the person you bought the gun from, it is not registered.
All private gun sales in California must go through an FFL. 10 day wait and background check. It hasn’t done squat to reduce crime. In fact, I guarantee it has gotten people (most likely women) killed because there is no legal way for the average citizen to get a gun without the 10 day wait.
Shimmies cannot carry firearms at any time. Please see my longest of two nights ago. Or search Bat Yeor
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