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Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?
American Thinker ^ | January 3, 2013 | William A. Levinson

Posted on 01/02/2013 11:52:28 PM PST by neverdem

Senator Dianne Feinstein's latest divide-and-conquer attack on the Second Amendment has made even Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) a sucker for the argument that private citizens do not need high-capacity magazines. These include not only 30-round rifle magazines, but 17-round magazines for handguns like the Glock.

Why does anybody need a high capacity magazine? If Senator Manchin were to educate himself by, for example, attending Front Sight's four-day defensive handgun class, he would learn the two primary answers:

(1) Failure to stop the aggressor, and

(2) Multiple aggressors

Failure to Stop

The classic .38 caliber revolver, with a capacity of six rounds, was the standard sidearm of the United States Army during the Moro insurrection in the Philippines. The Army found at least one dead Army officer with an empty sidearm, and his head split open by a machete or similar weapon. They also found the soldier's killer, who had finally bled to death. Six rounds of .38 were therefore not enough to convince even one determined attacker.

Police instructor Masaad Ayoob's The Truth About Self Protection adds an incident in which a female police officer saw a crazed gunman murder a woman, who then shot her as well before she could do anything. "She lay helpless as she watched a neighbor empty a .22 rifle into the killer; the neighbor then had to club the madman down with the empty rifle, again and again, before he succumbed."

Ayoob does not report the size of the .22's magazine, but the Moro insurrection exemplifies why even a 30-round rifle clip might not be enough to stop a crazed and determined attacker, such as one hopped up on a drug like PCP. "He had 32 Krag balls through him and was only stopped by the 33rd bullet -- a Colt .45 slug through..."...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 30round; banglist; fromeachaccording; governmentuberalles; guncontrol; magazine; toeachaccording; whydoesanybodyneed
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To: neverdem

NEED is a trap that gives the govt an excuse to ban anything not “needed”. I have lots of things I dont need and it’s none of the f’in govt business.


81 posted on 01/03/2013 6:24:33 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I need a high capacity magazine because I’m not a very good shot and possibly, just possibly, that extra round will fend off anyone trying to do harm to me or my family.

why do Ineed a 30 round magazine? Because they don’t make 50 round magazines.


82 posted on 01/03/2013 6:36:47 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DugwayDuke

I need a high capacity magazine because I’m not a very good shot and possibly, just possibly, that extra round will fend off anyone trying to do harm to me or my family.

why do Ineed a 30 round magazine? Because they don’t make 50 round magazines.


83 posted on 01/03/2013 6:38:06 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: neverdem

Because I want one and the constitution protects my rkba. No other answer is necessary and frankly is none of the govt business


84 posted on 01/03/2013 6:40:10 AM PST by Mom MD (Liberals are slinkies. Good for nothing but they make you smile when you push them down stairs.)
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To: neverdem
The higher capacity magazine the better in dealing with feral liberal varmints. They are like locusts; they devour everything in sight, everywhere they are.
85 posted on 01/03/2013 7:10:55 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: neverdem
Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?

Why do those who let fear rule their lives assume that the 1.5 seconds it takes to reload a magazine will do anything useful?

(It surely didn't slow down Adam Lanza. He fired MANY more than 30 shots. He brought additional magazines, because he wanted to fire more than 30 shots. That doesn't take a genius to figure out. Clearly this huge push for magazine limitations isn't for safety. So what is it about, dear Liberal friends? If you answer anything other than "Control", you're likely wrong yet again.)

86 posted on 01/03/2013 7:17:20 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Casie
Yes! We need to STOP trying to make excuses for our rights!

Exactly!

The guns they want to do away with are optimized for fighting. If they are trying to limit your ability to fight, when you are not fighting, what does that tell you?

87 posted on 01/03/2013 7:26:25 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Liberty Valance

Vairy Finnay!


88 posted on 01/03/2013 7:30:21 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Steel Wolf
...it’s not the guns they’re ultimately after. It’s the power to bend or break you without fear of retaliation.

Ding, ding, ding!

89 posted on 01/03/2013 7:44:48 AM PST by papertyger
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To: neverdem
"Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?"

Because 40 round mags are hard to find.

Well, so are 30s these days...

90 posted on 01/03/2013 7:48:49 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: neverdem
Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?

I'll assume it's already been said, but of course we don't have a Bill of Needs. Refreshing to say it.

91 posted on 01/03/2013 7:49:09 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem

The easy answer: “...because I can’t find a 40-round magazine.”


92 posted on 01/03/2013 7:49:47 AM PST by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: neverdem
Why does any Senator need to serve more than one term?
93 posted on 01/03/2013 7:52:01 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Exactamundo.


94 posted on 01/03/2013 7:55:39 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: publius911

why do we need 100 senators when ONE dictator can do the job?

Why do we need a NYC or an LA or a San Francisco when people can easily be forced to live in small villages?

Why do we need so many universities when just one Harvard does such a wonderful job?


95 posted on 01/03/2013 7:57:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem
the Moro insurrection in the Philippines.

It's not terribly relevant to the article, but still a very interesting note that the Moros were and are a particularly nasty bunch of violent mohammedan radical terrorists.

96 posted on 01/03/2013 8:03:31 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: neverdem

Because reloading cuts into your fun time.


97 posted on 01/03/2013 8:14:39 AM PST by rightly_dividing (Left behind; 4 Americans in Libya)
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To: All

Why does a bear crap in the woods? Because (gr) it is his natural given birthright and until someone changes that by forcibly putting him in a cage thats what he is going to do.


98 posted on 01/03/2013 8:26:33 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Daralundy

It is DEFINITELY time for “common sense press control.” After all, the First Amendment was meant to protect only the single-sheet manual printing press, not today’s 200-page, color publications or the internet or the web or TV or movies.


99 posted on 01/03/2013 8:30:10 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: neverdem
"Why Does Anybody Need a 30-Round Magazine?"

According to the vainglorious doom stories of the government-funded socialist middle class, when they lose their incomes during the austerity programs of the default process, they're going to attack and conquer rural families.

Such rural families might be better able to hold off the gangs of former political/regulator zombies (no longer highly paid for officiously regulating against and robbing their neighbors) with 30-round magazines, until police arrive. And oh, yeah...there won't be any "WROL" (without rule of law) situation, as rural folks will always somehow compensate law enforcement and keep it employed.

[Little hyperbole and humor there but not entirely unrealistic. Country folks need rifles for various reasons including defense, protecting livestock, Second Amendment, because of rural distances involved.]


100 posted on 01/03/2013 9:35:32 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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