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Students failing algebra rarely recover
San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^
| Published 10:22 p.m., Friday, November 30, 2012
| Jill Tucker
Posted on 12/01/2012 2:31:36 PM PST by thecodont
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:31:44 PM PST
by
thecodont
To: thecodont
Everyone learns math differently. If the method of teaching failed to teach, trying the same thing again is not really going to work if the student was motivated.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:34:54 PM PST
by
Raycpa
To: thecodont
a vicious cycle that wastes limited resources and precious learning time, according to a report released Friday. Now that is funny considering all the crappy stuff publik skoolz do and spend money on.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:37:00 PM PST
by
GeronL
(http://asspos.blogspot.com)
To: thecodont
My daughter would never have passed algebra without her brother.
His first lesson was...."First.....forget everything your teacher said".
Let's take a look at the math teachers.
To: thecodont
I was awful in algebra. I scored barely well enough to advance to geometry. One day in geometry I had a B.F. Skinner-type “white light” moment. From that moment on I was an A student in math and went on to major in Math at college.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:37:29 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: gorush
You have to share. I tried looking it up but no success.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:39:29 PM PST
by
SkyDancer
(Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral.)
To: gorush
I was awful in algebra. I scored barely well enough to advance to geometry. One day in geometry I had a B.F. Skinner-type white light moment. From that moment on I was an A student in math and went on to major in Math at college.Good for you! Most people never have such a moment. How did yours happen for you?
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:40:24 PM PST
by
thecodont
To: Raycpa
Everyone learns math differently. If the method of teaching failed to teach, trying the same thing again is not really going to work if the student was motivated.True, so true.
1) Must want to learn it, or wasting time.
2)Instructor must be capable of explainng it in a way to enable understanding by the motivated student.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:40:34 PM PST
by
going hot
(Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Sacajaweau
Most math teachers are incompetent. Those who actually get math, as a major or a minor in college, are a small minority but can work miracles.
To: thecodont
This is nothing new. I should have failed Algebra in the Ninth grade (got a C) but didn't really understand it. Went onto Geometry in the Tenth Grade (got another C) but didn't really understand that either).
Finally wised-up and went across the street to City College where I took both courses on my own time and passed both with "A" grades because I understood both! The difference being learned instructors, not passive school teachers.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:43:21 PM PST
by
onyx
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To: gorush
I still remember my grades in 10th grade second year algebra, 3 D’s and C. Well in college I took college algebra and earned a B. Still later four quarters of calculs and differential equations-all A’s and
Bs. Linear algebra and matrix algebra-A’s. Part of it was me, part of it was probably the book and the teacher.
But mostly I got older, more mature, and my reading skills improved.
To: SkyDancer
Skinner used to say that learning can and should continue throughout life and referred to the joy of intellectual illumination as concepts became clear. And sure enough, that moment where the previous years algebra and all subsequent math learning just made sense was, as I recall, almost orgasmic. I’ve yearned to repeat that sensation but have fallen short in the following half century.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:45:55 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: thecodont
Students failing algebra rarely recover Let's tell the truth here: Teachers failing to teach algebra rarely recover.
Few public school teachers could pass second or third grade plusses, minuses, timeses, and gazintas; let alone teach eighth or ninth grade algebra or geometry.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:48:33 PM PST
by
meadsjn
To: thecodont
"Good for you! Most people never have such a moment. How did yours happen for you?"I can't say for sure. I suspect I just recognized patterns more effectively in geometry, which is more visual. It (algebra) all beclame clear in an instant. Sorry, that's the best way that I can describe it.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:50:45 PM PST
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: meadsjn
Algebra is largely unimportant in most peoples lives. How to manage finances etc. should be the major emphasis of general higher mathematical education.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:52:07 PM PST
by
JmyBryan
To: thecodont
The only trick needed with algebra II and calculus is not to fall behind.
Do the homework assignments or you're done for.
Any course that requires knowledge building from one day to the next in a foundation type of way, requires keeping up.
Guess now days video games interfere with that school silliness.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:52:58 PM PST
by
The Cajun
(Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
To: thecodont
I failed algebra in 9th grade and then failed it again in the 10th grade. I finished high school by completing some crapola called "high school math".
In college I survived college algebra, trig, analytic geometry and calculus.
My qualified opinion:
If things aren't right at home there ain't nothing gonna work - some kid's in trouble.
Get things straightened out at home and a talented person who GAF can make a world of difference for a young person.
I can recall a particular conversation I had with a gentleman who taught math at a certain university near my home that I credit with making the difference for me. It took him about 30 minutes to convince me that I could learn math.
I don't even recall the guy's name any more but he made a difference in my situation simply because he GAF.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:53:31 PM PST
by
OKSooner
To: gorush
Sometimes called an Epiphany. I’ve had that feeling several time while in flight training. All of a sudden something made sense. I did finally find about it by searching just his name.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:57:31 PM PST
by
SkyDancer
(Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral.)
To: thecodont
>> Just over a third of students in the 24 school districts studied had to repeat Algebra I either in ninth or 10th grade,
That’s pathetic. No doubt a consequence of the elementary curriculum.
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posted on
12/01/2012 2:59:12 PM PST
by
Gene Eric
(Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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