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To: Nachum

any investor would be a fool to buy Hostess - the unions make this an impossible buy.


9 posted on 11/20/2012 7:59:58 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

Makes more sense to buy the patents, the distriburting rights and teh euipment.

Pack it all up and ship it to a right to work state. Start again there.


12 posted on 11/20/2012 8:02:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. ItClimate change! is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: elpadre

Makes more sense to buy the patents, the distriburting rights and teh euipment.

Pack it all up and ship it to a right to work state. Start again there.


13 posted on 11/20/2012 8:02:16 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. ItClimate change! is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: elpadre

Someone may buy the name, recipes, and trademarks, but I seriously doubt anyone is buying the company as currently structured.


15 posted on 11/20/2012 8:03:22 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: elpadre

Bet that Thanksgiving dinner will be a sad occasion for 18,000 families.


16 posted on 11/20/2012 8:03:38 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: elpadre
any investor would be a fool to buy Hostess - the unions make this an impossible buy.

The beauty of liquidations is that union contracts are torn up, and there's no obligation to hire a single union worker or even buy the existing plants. Bimbo could make everything in Mexico.

17 posted on 11/20/2012 8:03:55 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: elpadre

If they buy the assets and not the corporation they won’t be stuck with the unions.


18 posted on 11/20/2012 8:05:00 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - both were a coup d'etat.)
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To: elpadre

Not saying you’re wrong but what legal lever can unions use to do that? If there is a law that says you may not close a business then we are already have a fascist dictatorship.

I suppose there are pensions. I wonder if they are fully funded?


19 posted on 11/20/2012 8:06:03 PM PST by DManA ( you)
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To: elpadre
any investor would be a fool to buy Hostess - the unions make this an impossible buy>

Once it goes into bankruptcy and liquidation the union contract is null and void as it will be a new entity that will be Hostess thus a very good buy. To buy the present Hostess and the union contract that goes with it, would be an act of financial insanity.

42 posted on 11/20/2012 8:43:29 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: elpadre

You really don’t have to buy much. If your already a bakery like Bimbo all you need is the recipe. That could be e-mailed after payment.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 8:51:13 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: elpadre

They are liquidating. You buy the goodwill, the intellectual property (ie, recipes), brand equity, and brand names. Maybe you buy the machinery, but you disassemble it and ship it to a new factory in a right to work state or in Mexico.

They are not selling it as an on-going enterprise.


65 posted on 11/20/2012 10:08:10 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: elpadre
Not sure an investor would have to take the union if it just bought the intellectual property (recipes in this case) and trademarks.

Then if i understand it correctly, they could form a new company in a right-to-work state and have no unions, right?

66 posted on 11/20/2012 10:09:39 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: elpadre

That’s the fun part of liquidation, nobody will buy the company which includes the union contracts, they’ll buy the recipes and logos.


88 posted on 11/21/2012 7:24:52 AM PST by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: elpadre; M-cubed

Grupo Bimbo makes their stuff for the Mexican market. Most likely they’ll buy the rights to the brand in NA and then manufacture the stuff in Mexico to sell north of the border. Bye, bye union jobs...


98 posted on 11/21/2012 7:59:37 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: elpadre

My broker years ago tried to include Hostess in my portfolio. Either that or Sandisk. I chose Sandisk.


155 posted on 11/21/2012 8:34:40 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: elpadre
any investor would be a fool to buy Hostess - the unions make this an impossible buy.

The investor is not bound by old union contracts. He can set up shop in a right to work state, or even offshore it, and resume pumping out twinkies without the expense and headache of dealing with unions.

Bankruptcy is a fresh start for a food that never goes stale.

169 posted on 11/23/2012 5:45:53 AM PST by Sirius Lee (RE SP - Republicans, from Mitt Romney ..to Karl Rove... are said to be concerned she will win.")
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