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Islamic Community Forms Own Government, in the USA
Vinienco.com ^ | 11/18/2012 | n/a

Posted on 11/19/2012 6:57:06 PM PST by gorush

In Hancock, NY an islamic community that sits on 80 acres has decided to form its own government. They call their community Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five council members. None of them are elected, of course.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; catskillmountains; catskills; cult; gilani; iqou; islamburg; islamictakeover; jamaatalfuqra; jamaatulfuqra; moa; muslimsoftheamericas; quranicopenu; ulfuqra
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To: gorush

Will they have their judges to decide which part gets amputated?


41 posted on 11/19/2012 11:06:37 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: null and void

As long as you are fantasizing, why compromise with the baby-killers?

Ever occur to you that abortion is an evil many orders of magnitude more monstrous than slavery? If getting rid of slavery took the slaying of 650,000 Americans, what kind of bloodbath will be necessary to force the baby-killers to let go of power?

Segregation was brought down with about 2000 people getting arrested at lunch counters. During the Rescue Movement of the 1980s, about 80,000 people were arrested at abortion clinics—and the Rescue Movement was totally unsuccessful at winning over “pro-life” Congressmen and Senators, and only one bishop in the U.S. took part. The Congress passed the FACE Act, and the bishops never raised a peep in protest.

Stopping abortion in the U.S. will require the violent death of millions of people in a war and probably the formal, definitive end of the so-called United States.


42 posted on 11/19/2012 11:10:48 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: ForAmerica

If such a nefarious plot were to be hatched. I would recommend a Pave Pat Blue, Fuel/Air Explosive rolled out of the back of a C-130 between 3 and 5,000 feet AGL.

Diverting from Indian Town Gap, PA. Army/Air Force Reservation. Where all kinds of flares and munitions are regularly tested. For about 40 minutes. And set for ground detonation in the center of town.

It’s the closest thing to nuking something from orbit. Just to be sure.


43 posted on 11/19/2012 11:44:17 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: gorush

And so it begins:

What Islam Isn’t
 
By Dr. Peter Hammond
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, April 21, 2008  
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam - Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.
‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’
It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 12:26:35 AM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Fred Nerks

Where did the fighters go, Syria perhaps?


45 posted on 11/20/2012 1:17:51 AM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: null and void

Sounds good to me. There’s abundant evidence that the Federal leviathan won’t be controlled without something like what you propose. Some will want more “conservative” ideas inserted into the platform, but they should ask why those are a federal issue at all.


46 posted on 11/20/2012 2:39:16 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: null and void

Sounds good to me. There’s abundant evidence that the Federal leviathan won’t be controlled without something like what you propose. Some will want more “conservative” ideas inserted into the platform, but they should ask why those are a federal issue at all.


47 posted on 11/20/2012 2:39:27 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Secret Agent Man; Arthur McGowan
I'm not quite sure why you think the Founding Fathers made a mistake.

Because they were willing to make a small compromise we got a United States, the United States became the first country to eliminate slavery, and now slavery is not legal in any country on earth.

Had they taken a hard line, like you are, there would be no union and slavery would continue unabated.

Had they fully buckled, the de facto state we have today with regard to abortion, and allowed slaves to be fully counted, the slave states would have had overwhelming power in congress and we'd still have slavery by "popular" vote, just like we currently have abortion.

Somehow you see this as a mistake, rather than a recognition of current politics, with setting the stage to change that reality into a better one.

You seem to prefer the current status quo, the one that forces you, me and millions of others to pay for abortions not only here, but world wide, to any compromise that sets the stage for progress.

The same status quo that allowed the worst president in history to get re-elected by women "voting as if their lady parts depended on it". That status quo.

I could have not settled for a partial victory, I could, like you, insist on all or nothing. I would get, like you gotten, nothing.

Instead, I'm willing to make it so the only people who pay for other people's abortions are the ones who want to.

And they are liberals. They don't want to pay for abortions themselves, they want you to pay for them. Do you see the corner they're painted into? It's one thing for them to be "charitable" with your money, and as long as your money is there, their "charity" is limitless.

It's another thing entirely to make them take out their own wallets, and, well, that will get old really fast.

It's not a false peace, it's a step towards ultimate victory.

Or, we could continue our current death spiral and Arthur McGowan gets his wish: a world without abortion.

It'll be a world wide caliphate, but there won't be any abortions.

I prefer a few more bloodless baby steps, and a freer end game.

YMMV

48 posted on 11/20/2012 10:55:39 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: itsahoot

I’m trying to figure out a way to recognize that islam is not a religion for the purposes of the FREEP platform, without specifically naming islam.

I’m leaning towards limiting the definition of religion to exclude any organization that advocates violence as a means of conversion.

Every religion has on occasion resorted to violence, but as far as I know, only one current religion has it as a core value.

Help me here?


49 posted on 11/20/2012 11:08:04 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: rfp1234

That report I posted was from 2009. Conditions may have changed?
But yes, it’s possible some went to Syria from there; there has been one Australian national Syrian killed in Syria recently, his family says he was just there helping the poor people in the refuge camps and was caught in cross-fire.
He became a martyr and went to allah I suppose. These manufactured conflicts seem to hoover them up from all over.


50 posted on 11/20/2012 12:43:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: rfp1234

That report I posted was from 2009. Conditions may have changed?
But yes, it’s possible some went to Syria from there; there has been one Australian national Syrian killed in Syria recently, his family says he was just there helping the poor people in the refuge camps and was caught in cross-fire.
He became a martyr and went to allah I suppose. These manufactured conflicts seem to hoover them up from all over.


51 posted on 11/20/2012 12:43:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: gorush

As is pointed out in the comments to this story, this is not new. Reports were coming in in 2007. Since law enforcement is making no moves, the only thing for good citizens to do is be prepared.


52 posted on 11/20/2012 2:00:49 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: TruthWillWin

Texas. The only state that can because they were originally formed as a Republic. Go Texas!


53 posted on 11/20/2012 2:02:35 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: null and void

Do you know the process by which abortion became “legal” in the United States?


54 posted on 11/20/2012 3:04:26 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Enlighten us all.


55 posted on 11/20/2012 3:31:22 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: null and void

If you don’t know, then you can’t know which mechanisms were exploited, and you can’t see how the “legality” of abortion nullifies every basic principle in the Declaration and Constitution, starting with self-government.


56 posted on 11/20/2012 3:49:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

SO you’re unilaterally giving up the fight to win us over to your side?


57 posted on 11/20/2012 3:51:51 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: null and void

I am happy to discuss anything, but sarcasm (Enlighten us all.) is a turn-off.


58 posted on 11/20/2012 3:58:53 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Swell. Have a great day. (The SO in my last was meant to be So,)


59 posted on 11/20/2012 4:04:30 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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