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Islamic Community Forms Own Government, in the USA
Vinienco.com ^ | 11/18/2012 | n/a

Posted on 11/19/2012 6:57:06 PM PST by gorush

In Hancock, NY an islamic community that sits on 80 acres has decided to form its own government. They call their community Islamberg. They have their own mayor, deputy mayor and five council members. None of them are elected, of course.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; catskillmountains; catskills; cult; gilani; iqou; islamburg; islamictakeover; jamaatalfuqra; jamaatulfuqra; moa; muslimsoftheamericas; quranicopenu; ulfuqra
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No, it's not my blog...but it is very interesting and very alarming.
1 posted on 11/19/2012 6:57:11 PM PST by gorush
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To: gorush

Two can play at that game. We should start our own government and call it ‘Freerepublic!.


2 posted on 11/19/2012 7:00:53 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: gorush

No different than the Amish. /sarc


3 posted on 11/19/2012 7:01:23 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: gorush

Does this mean that conservatives can note form their own government?


4 posted on 11/19/2012 7:02:25 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: gorush

hmmm, is it missle time?


5 posted on 11/19/2012 7:03:40 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: TruthWillWin

note = now


6 posted on 11/19/2012 7:04:05 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: stubernx98
"hmmm, is it missile time?"

I believe it is. Have you got one?

7 posted on 11/19/2012 7:06:37 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Bomb it, it’s an invasion!


8 posted on 11/19/2012 7:10:27 PM PST by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Working on it...

FREEDOM, RESPONSIBILITY and EXCELLENCE for EVERYONE PARTY

Party goals:
Set the United States on a path of continued improvement in personal freedoms, personal prosperity and personal responsibility.

The centerpiece of freedom is an economy that allows individuals and corporations to provide needed and wanted service and goods, to freely generate profit and income and to freely compete in a legal and regulatory environment that minimizes harmful side effects while maximizing productivity product diversity and freedom.

Philosophy:
People are happier if they are productive and can control their own lives.

Core concepts:
Government exists to provide the structure and stability needed for a prosperous society.
Appropriate government functions include:

National defense (includes control of borders and immigration)
Provide uniform standards of weights and measures
Provide a uniform legal structure that neither favors nor penalizes any American entity over another
Provide such infrastructure as is beyond the scope of private industry
Provide for the rights to free association, property, liberty and activity
Provide for honest dealings
We recognize that all government functions involve an element of force and sometimes require what we call “dreadful necessities”, those actions and activities that we as individuals find repugnant but the realities of imperfect politics and an imperfect world sometime require.
They include such things as:
The necessity to wage war when the alternatives are worse
The death penalty for extraordinary crimes
Abortion
Taxation
Dreadful necessities are to fall on all residents equally or to be so arranged as to not force individuals with strong moral objections to support.
For example, abortion, people who see this as an absolute woman's right will never agree with people who see it as murder. Politically there is no solution to this dilemma if everyone is forced to either support or repudiate the same side. One possible solution is:
Allow taxpayers opposed to abortion to withhold their tax dollars from being spent in support of those entities performing them. Specifically, allow individual taxpayers to block the use of their own personal tax dollars as funding that would otherwise be used to “perform, support, provide facilities and supplies for, or promote abortion of healthy babies".

Or require a positive action to fund abortions, allow taxpayers who support abortion to be the ones who fund it using a tax form tic box modeled on the Presidential Election Campaign fund:

Abortion on Demand Fund
Check here if you or your spouse, if filing
jointly, want $3 to go the this fund.
Checking a box below will not change
your taxes or refund. [ ] You [ ] Spouse
Similar arrangements can be made on most “hot button” issues.
Taxation:
We recognize the dreadful necessity of taxation. As such, taxation needs to be as simple, painless and even as possible. Taxation must only be used to raise revenue to fund necessary governmental functions. The tax code needs to be free of all the artificial constructs intended as “social engineering”. It is no business of the government if you choose any particular industry or lifestyle. Accordingly we propose the following tax structure:
1. Eliminate ALL current IRS regulations.

2. Set the individual tax rate at 10% regardless of income.

a) Perquisites are taxed at 10% of cost.

b) Tax only the increase in value of any investment, and only when that investment is cashed out.
3. Withhold at the rate of 11%, to get a refund you have to file taxes, but there is no legal imperative to file.

4. Since owners and shareholders are already taxed on their individual incomes, eliminate ALL corporate tax.
a) Eliminate ALL depletion allowances and depreciation allowances.

b) American taxes are only collected on money earned in America.
5. Tax ALL money coming into the country at 0% (yes, ZERO%).

6. Tax ALL money leaving the country at 10%.
Note that this removes the government form the marriage and child rearing business. You want to get married? Your business, it is no business of the IRS, it doesn't affect your taxes. You want one child or a dozen? Have as many as you can raise, that's not the government’s business, that's yours.

Charity:
Governments don't do charity, governments do force. Americans need to return to individual charity and caring. There was a time not all that long ago, when we freely donated to our churches and charities, when we helped our neighbors one-on-one. We still see that in any number of drives to raise money for a child's cancer treatment. We still see that in private fundraising for stray cats and polar bears. We still see that in disaster relief for third world countries. We can restore true charity, rather than heartless compulsory welfare.

Reciprocal International Relations:
Open and friendly to all who are open and friendly to us, restrictive and hostile where we face restrictions and hostility. The goal of our diplomacy is wealthy and happy friends, recognized wherever they are, and created wherever we can, and utterly destroyed enemies where we must. (sidebar: Like Von Clausewitz, we recognize that diplomacy and war are part of the same continuum. The Departments of State and Defense will become one department)


9 posted on 11/19/2012 7:18:05 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: gorush

Bombs.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 7:20:34 PM PST by smalltownslick
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To: null and void

I wonder if Planned Parenthood is going to put in their services in this city. How about the 1st Baptist Church, can they buy property here. Do they allow the 2nd and 1st amendment to the Constitution, someone needs to call the A.C.L.U. and get them to do a test case.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 7:21:58 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: gorush

I am accepting applications for any conservatives interested in joining my private community of Gatorville. Bring guns, ammo and your bible...

Come casual, we are still designing the uniforms.


12 posted on 11/19/2012 7:23:22 PM PST by Gator113 (WHO gave the order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?)
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To: gorush
They call their community Islamberg.

They gave it a Jewish name?

13 posted on 11/19/2012 7:24:07 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: gorush
The constitution doesn't particularly care for this:

Article. IV.

[...]

Section. 2.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

[...]

Section. 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

[...]

Section. 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

14 posted on 11/19/2012 7:34:35 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: null and void

Great start!


15 posted on 11/19/2012 7:38:38 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: gorush; mickie
Is this, in a sly roundabout way, a 'secession' which is forbidden to US?

Leni

16 posted on 11/19/2012 7:47:24 PM PST by MinuteGal (Tuesday, November 6, 2012.....A Day that will Live in Infamy)
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To: castlebrew

Thanks. With a name like FREEP it sorta just flows.

Still, any ideas and suggestions would be appreciated!


17 posted on 11/19/2012 7:49:26 PM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: rovenstinez

Will grocery stores be allowed to sell bacon?


18 posted on 11/19/2012 7:56:06 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: null and void

Excellent start. We can have bacon, I hope?


19 posted on 11/19/2012 7:59:52 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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To: Gator113

Where do we sign up? :-)


20 posted on 11/19/2012 8:01:22 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt.)
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