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After Democrats Gain Across the Country, Conservative Voters Wonder Where They Fit
New York Times ^ | November 18, 2012 | Jack Healy

Posted on 11/18/2012 3:46:44 PM PST by reaganaut1

CHEYENNE, Wyo. — By now, voters here are over the initial shock. The ranchers, businessmen and farmers across this deep-red state who knew, just knew that Americans would never re-elect a liberal tax-and-spender president have grudgingly accepted the reality that voters did just that.

But in the days since the election, a blanket of baffled worry has descended on conservatives here like early snow across the plains, deepening a sense that traditional, rural and overwhelmingly white states in the center of the country are losing touch with an increasingly diverse and urban American electorate.

“It’s a fundamental shift,” said Khale Lenhart, 27, a lawyer here. “It’s a mind-set change — that government is here to take care of me.”

As the share of white voters — and white men, specifically — shrank in this election, exit polls showed that turnout grew among black, Hispanic and Asian voters, who supported President Obama and more than compensated for his losses among whites. An analysis by the Pew Research Center found that minority voters made up 28 percent of the electorate, up from 26 percent in 2008, a proportion expected to grow.

“Welcome to the next America,” said Paul Taylor, executive vice president at Pew. “Whatever that vote looked like this year, four years from now it’ll be more so, and eight years from now it’ll be even more so.”

None of this assures election wins for Democrats. The tide of minority voters that helped elect Mr. Obama in 2008 ebbed just two years later in a welter of populist anger over deficits, job losses and Mr. Obama’s agenda, allowing Republicans to retake the House and make gains in the Senate in the midterm elections. And there is no guarantee that the next Democratic presidential candidate will match Mr. Obama’s huge margins

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1 posted on 11/18/2012 3:46:50 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Gain by voter fraud only.

The post 2008 trend will continue (unless John Boehner remains Speaker).


2 posted on 11/18/2012 3:49:39 PM PST by tsowellfan (Allen West for Speaker!)
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To: reaganaut1

The New York Times fits perfectly in my Cat’s Litter Box.


3 posted on 11/18/2012 3:54:31 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: reaganaut1

It’s beyond the time when we can shut off the flow. The changing demographics have taken care of that, and intimidated any pol who might think along those lines.

I just wonder: what will the incentive be as this new population manages to turn the USA into the very image of the $#!t# countries they left?


4 posted on 11/18/2012 3:54:32 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: reaganaut1
For 50 years the USA has been bringing in millions of people from third world hell holes who have no clue about what made this country great. They now out number the producers. The editors of the New York Times may be basking in the sun about the death of America but I wonder if they realize that those same third world American citizens do not read the newspaper (print or digital). The one good thing about America going down the toilet is that the New York Times is going down too.
5 posted on 11/18/2012 3:57:10 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: reaganaut1
Obama did not win a single state with voter ID requirements.

He won certain urban precincts in Ohio and Florida with 99% of the vote and 150% more ballots than registered voters.

Unless the GOP pulls its head out of its exit orifice and addresses Democrat election fraud, we are done.

But they think it is unseemly to even bring such unpleasantness up.

6 posted on 11/18/2012 3:57:23 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: reaganaut1

Outnumbered but not outgunned.


7 posted on 11/18/2012 3:59:01 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: reaganaut1

Where do conservative voters fit? They’re the taxpayers.


8 posted on 11/18/2012 3:59:42 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Republicans governors now control 30 of the states.

You would think all of them would require voter id.

9 posted on 11/18/2012 4:00:07 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: tsowellfan

Uh, I think you kind of got that backwards.


10 posted on 11/18/2012 4:01:07 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: tsowellfan
Before you get too excited, the Democrat vote for President this year was about 10% less than it was in 2008.

Start asking yourself how that could be if the numbers of black, hispanic and asian voters increased and made up for the loss of white Obama voters.

Actually, there are two ways to look at elections ~ (1) Actual numbers of voters, and (2) Percentages of voters.

Democrats declined on both counts ~ they lost voters, their percentage of the total vote is much less this time.

Republicans came in about the same but their percentage of the total vote increased substantially.

Remember, there are NOT equal numbers of Republican and Democrat voters, and not every Democrat who fails to vote for the Presidential candidate turns around and votes for the Republican candidate.

The article here is based on several false premises, knowingly, and therefore constitutes propaganda aimed at Republicans to dispirit them.

As the Baby Boomers pass into the Great Valley of the Peoples ~ which means they die, you will see an actual contraction in the number of voters. This time you saw a Race To The Bottom ~ and next time you'll see what amounts to a Political Crash as fewer and fewer voters show up and fewer and fewer new voters are registered.

That goes on for 18 years ~ with 12 years remaining. It'd happened earlier just folks missed it and imagined Republicans went over to vote for Obama because it was an historic occasion.

The Republican advantage is a lower abortion rate among white Republicans. The Democrat disadvantage is a far higher abortion rate among black, hispanic, and white Democrats.

In short, we are looking at the end of the Democrat party. That's why we need to hit the restart button on the Republican party and shed the losers!

11 posted on 11/18/2012 4:02:53 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Flavious_Maximus
The one good thing about America going down the toilet is that the New York Times is going down too.

Samson did get the last laugh... kind of.

12 posted on 11/18/2012 4:03:10 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: mware
You would think all of them would require voter id.

The Secretary of State decides, not the governor.

Which explains George Soros' SOS project.

13 posted on 11/18/2012 4:03:35 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: reaganaut1

unless the election was more then traditional ballot stuffing and imposter voting...

how about straight up vote change hacking?

admitted by anonymous that they hacked romneys systems... how long until we find out they hacked-the-vote ?


14 posted on 11/18/2012 4:04:20 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: elkfersupper; tsowellfan

not sure that meant anything ~ what’s Boehner got to do with the rates of birth and death?


15 posted on 11/18/2012 4:05:28 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Incorrigible

We’re merely outnumbered and surrounded; we have the enemy exactly where we want then.


16 posted on 11/18/2012 4:06:56 PM PST by Carriage Hill (America - a great idea while it lasted.)
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To: mware
You would think all of them would require voter id.

A lot of us out here really don't like showing ID for any purpose.

If we would get back to the Constitutional male property owners, voters would just have to show up and prove they owned some real estate. No ID necessary.

17 posted on 11/18/2012 4:06:56 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: reaganaut1

The NYT is onto something here.

The GOP has aligned itself partly with the “internationalization” of business.

This means in practice, not American.

Not American, means foreign. Yet GOP is all for foreign ownership of American companies and American factories.

This is why “conservative’ business is falling. We need to be pro-American. Not global, AMERICAN.

This is so simple, so profound, and the Dems are going to beat us at this, if we do not change course.

My 2 cents...


18 posted on 11/18/2012 4:10:13 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: reaganaut1
“Whatever that vote looked like this year, four years from now it’ll be more so, and eight years from now it’ll be even more so.”

2010 was a right wing landslide. I don't remember the MSM trying to find a place for the very few democrats who where left in this country back then.

I think what they're trying to say is this: If democrats win, the whole country has to be more like democrats.
If Republicans win, the whole country has to be more like democrats.

Do I have that right?

19 posted on 11/18/2012 4:13:39 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: KC_Lion

Litter box! Perfect fit! LOL!

One more NYT column to marginalize and demoralize the white population, even quoting our disdain for the hand out, gimme races who are filling up the country and our ballot boxes, just as DeToqueville warned. The Times is bold to quote such statements because they are mocking that old fashion thinking that made the country what it is, now gloating that traditional America died with this election. The nerve.


20 posted on 11/18/2012 4:16:48 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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