Posted on 11/17/2012 12:41:56 PM PST by Jo Nuvark
According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment - if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College -- then the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President. In other words -- if we pressure Congressmen, State Party Officials, and groups such as Tea Party Patriots, Heritage Foundation, etc., to call on RED States to NOT have their Electors cast their vote -- then the House of Reps CAN ...
(Excerpt) Read more at lakecharlesteaparty.ning.com ...
yeah this should have happened the first time the noncitizen was “elected”
This approach relies on the makeup of each state’s house delegation voting a straight party-line.
In the next Congress, what is the count of the states which have a majority of Congresspersons on one side or another?
With all 50 states petitioning for secession, could this happen if we MAKE THE CALLS ... PING???
Worth a try if nothing but to hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth
Don’t give the Dems any ideas for the next Presidential Election ,Oh wait, sorry ,2012 was the last Presidential Election
Um, no.
Well, let’s do it.
People, Article II and the 12th Amendment say no such thing. Read them. Carefully.
Why not? At the least it will drive MSM into hysterics. Barack Obama brings to mind “THe King has no clothes.” He is in incompetent nerd, yet MSM keeps saying he is “cool.” His gaffes are covered-up or minimized while anyone who might be running against him is trashed, lied about, and ridiculed.
If we had a free press who looked to investigate and let the light of truth shine Obama would soon be making his resignation over the Benghazi cover up. Nixon was hounded out of office by the press for the Watergate cover up which is a mere trifle in comparison to Benghazi. Sadly our press has become little more than willing tools of the White House Ministry of Propaganda. I think the US media is more under government control than the German press was in 1933 when Hitler was swept into power.
And you should not give over something to the government that you would not be completely comfortable seeing in the hands of your worst enemy.
It is sad that your comment is the first to mention that.
I think they got confused by the “2/3rds quorum” needed in the house for the case where nobody gets a majority of electoral votes.
But maybe they were just making things up.
If this were a real option, wouldn’t it have happened in the election of 1860?
Col West has opened the door.
We must fight election fraud.
It falls on We the People.
Silence is consent
Theres overwhelming evidence of fraud.- Here
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MITT ROMNEY TWEETS ABOUT ELECTION FRAUD:
>MITT ROMNEY in 2012! @PlanetRomney #tcot The Competent Conservative: Elections Have Not Yet Been Certified. Heres What You Can Do: - Here
Excerpt from Mitt Romney's reference:
These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it wont do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below...
Read the rest- Here
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SARAH PALIN speaks out on Twitter about massive Obama machine voter fraud:
>Sarah Palin @SarahPalinUSA Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud
>Sarah Palin;@SarahPalinUSA People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.
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The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
(Astonishing list. Most prominent 'vote fraud site' on the net) > Visit the site- Here
Most of 'Obama Voter Fraud' activity is moving to FaceBook. 'Obama Voter Fraud Volunteers' Here
'Obama Voter Fraud' on FaceBook- Here
Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, emails- Here
Another petition, The 'We The People' petition has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here
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'American Thinker'- "..Election stolen." Here-
'WND' List of voter fraud reports Here
'ATLAS SHRUGS' voter fraud list. 'Atlas Shrugs' has a list but cannot link. Contains video of eyewitness pollwatcher who verifies busload of Somalians bussed in, 95% spoke no english. Told to vote Obama. Google 'Atlas Shrugs voter fraud list'
< Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud Nov 12- Here
Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here
'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here
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Must watch videos!
VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here
VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here
VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here
VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here
VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here
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We can not wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.
We must act NOW.
Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.
We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....
We are FReepers. We must fight!
Those who shrug and accept this atrocity without a fight are not worthy to be called Freepers!
Voter Fraud Links
The American Dream; 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/22-signs-that-voter-fraud-is-wildly-out-of-control-and-the-election-was-a-sham
Town Hall : Obama Lilely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud
American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/was_the_2012_election_stolen.html
WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959584/posts
Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2957786/posts
Natural News.com: 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2959877/posts
Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012?
http://www.realville-usa.com/2012/11/the-great-election-robbery-of-2012.html#!/2012/11/the-great-election-robbery-of-2012.html
WND: Heres How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-touchscreens-killed-romney-votes/?cat_orig=politics
The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/election-fraud-obama-won-more-than-99-percent-of-the-vote-in-more-than-100-ohio-precincts
WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports:
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/
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What you can do:
These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it wont do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan:
Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. (See contact information below. Please provide others in COMMENTS.)
Send them the press clippings, or personal testimonials of clear vote fraud witnessed. (Statistical aberrations are helpful too like a historical 50% turnout in 2004, 2008 but a 90% turnout in a specific precinct despite an overall LOWER state turnout.)
Demand a public recount AND investigation, with a commitment to fight to replace THEM in the next election if they do not do so.
Email/Phone/Visit EVERY WEEK if not EVERY DAY. This will take weeks of steady pressure to get them to move.
Get your friends and neighbors to do the same.
Contact the OTHER 4 states to do the same as above.
Contact the Governor and the local GOP office with the SAME pressure.
(List of web contacts for each below)
If you are in those states (or know people who are) start attempting to find OTHERS with evidence of fraud. See if you can identify the precinct judges where the statistical aberations occur to pass along to the True the Vote which is set up to sue these entities with Judicial Watch.
Try to visit (or call) your local representative asking for their help to put pressure on. It doesnt hurt that if they dont or wont you make it your goal to find and fund a challenger to them for allow open and honest elections the fabric of freedom in this country to not only go unchallenged, but to institutionalized.
Contact your city, state and national media to keep this story alive as well. (Fox News has an email just for this at voterfraud@foxnews.com)
Help us find, fund or coordinate willing lawyers, statisticians, pollsters and activists.
I can not reiterate enough that if this is NOT CHALLENGED NOW, we will could loose the House of Representatives in 2014 and possibly every election forward to massive voter fraud. Imagine Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi reenacting the first two years of Obamas reign with more Stimulus, Cash for Cars, Solyndras and ObamaCares.
This fight can not be put off for another election cycle or another day. Or there will no longer be a constitutional America. Put down your foot and make the declaration, THIS VOTE FRAUD WILL NOT STAND!
Via SafariWoman at TeamNetworks.net
Heres contact info for all states:
OHIO:
(614) 466-2655
(877) SOS-Ohio (767-6446)
TTY: (614) 466-0562
TTY Toll-free: (877) 644-6889
E-mail the Agency
180 East Broad Street, 16th Floor
Columbus, Ohio 43215
WISCONSIN:
30 W. Mifflin, 10th Floor
Madison, WI
(608) 266-8888
PENNSYLVANIA:
302 N Office Building
Harrisburg, PA 17120
(717) 787-6458
VIRGINIA:
Office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth
1111 East Broad Street, 4th Floor
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 786-2441
Fax: (804) 371-0017
FLORIDA:
Directors Office (for Elections)
Main Line: (850) 245-6200
Fax Numbers: (850) 245-6217 or (850) 245-6218
Email: DivElections@dos.state.fl.us
Mailing Address:
Department of State
Division of Elections
Directors Office
Room 316, R. A. Gray Building
500 South Bronough Street
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0250
From Christa Schauf:
THIS PHONE LIST IS COMPLETE FOR ALL 50 STATES http://teapartyorg.ning.com/page/house-of-representatives
House of Representatives
U.S Capitol Switchboard 202-224-3121
STATE GOVERNORS
(1) Rick Scott, Governor of Florida
http://www.flgov.com/contact-gov-scott/email-the-governor/
(2) John R. Kasich, Governor of Ohio
http://governor.ohio.gov/Contact/ContacttheGovernor.aspx
(3) Bob McDonnell, Governor of Virginia
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm
(4) Scott Walker, Governor of Wisconsin
govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
(5)Tom Corbett, Governor of Pennsylvania
http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Governor/govmail.html
(6) Rick Snyder, Governor of Michigan
(1) Mitt Romney
http://www.mittromney.com/forms/suggestions
(2) Republican National Committee
http://www.gop.com/contact-us/Fox
News
(3) National Republican Senatorial Committee
http://www.nrsc.org/contact-us/
(4) National Republican Congressional Committee
E-mail: website@nrcc.org
(5) FOX News
foxnewstips@foxnews.com
(6) FOX News
Friends@foxnews.com
(7) Rush Limbaugh
ElRushbo@eibnet.com
(8) Mark Levin
http://www.marklevinshow.com/contactus.asp
(9) Shawn Hanity
http://www.hannity.com/contact
(10) Laura Ingraham
http://www.lauraingraham.com/help
(11) Michelle Malkin
Email: writemalkin@gmail.com
(12) Newt Gingrich
http://www.newt.org/contact/
Petitions for Recount!
Petition to Congress
Petition to White House
Petition to GOP
Petition to FEC
Petition to Count Denied Military Votes
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Still, Romney was a loser.
Sorry to disappoint - BUT that is NOT what Article II OR the 12th Amendment say. The ONLY way for the election to get to the House of Representatives is IF no one gets a majority of the whole number of electors appointed.
If ALL electors were appointed by ALL states, then it would HAVE to end up in a tie [269-269, if only 2 candidates with electoral pledges] in order to get to the House of Representatives. If more than 2 candidates with electoral pledges, then it goes to the House of Representatives ONLY if no candidate gets a MAJORITY of the electoral votes allocated.
If some states refuse to seat their electors - the same applies as in the above paragraph. ONLY with LESS electors that were appointed ...
Article II, Section I states:
The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice.
This Section was superceded by the 12th Amendment, which states:
The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
The ONLY difference in the wording is that Article II, Section I states that the House of Representatives picks from a list of 5 and the 12th Amendment states that the list is 3.
I wish that the person who wrote the article that is the subject of this thread would ACTUALLY READ the Constitution ...
Xjcsa is right....I just read them carefully, and its not true. Sorry folks...thhe two thirds being present requirement only applies to congress deciding the president if the electoral vote was a tie, or split with no maajority.
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