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Will Republicans Ever Win Again? Yes, but with new tools.
11-12-12 | Self

Posted on 11/12/2012 5:14:01 AM PST by CincyRichieRich

Have you ever been a fly on the wall? How about right out in the open, undercover?

Well I have and the RNC should pay me for it on retainer.

New tools, new tactics, and firing Rove and the pantywaist consultants is the only way to win again.

Yesterday - and quite often I'll add - my wife and I are the only conservative ones in large settings with staunchly democrat blacks - you know the type, 0bama is king, is perfect, and only bigots would not vote for him. But to sit there, watch how smart phones get passed around the room with "poke fun at Romney the hateful rich guy" after the election is tough to take. Listening to how shocking Patraeus is and Patraeus was gonna hurt 0bama and his only purpose in being there was to run against him? Yeah, when, 2016 after two terms??? These are the unbelievable comments I hear 1st hand. Sure I held my own, but with relatives and irrationality, you can only do so much.

This info is priceless and how I state things, use Socratic Method and other "tactics" to see what sticks and what doesn't is the stuff that the RNC needs to hire the right people, to re-educate the masses, etc.

Yes, I know some of you will say, 'can't change blacks', and you will say it's hopeless, but I say take 5% back and we win.

How???

Well somehow get rid of the RNC consultants who are so far from reality in the things I can observe they'll never hit the side of a barn with a gallon of red paint launched from 10' away.

Libs and Blacks in this country have totally abandoned the constitution...it is racist and does not exist...that's why shows like Levin, Rush, Savage are beneficial, whereas, Hannity is useless. Rah ra ra pushes blacks away. How many blacks know a black man founded the NRA?

We need a bevvy of consultants like me...remessaging and re-education would be the goal. Combining new language like the 20 words Luntz proposed and explaining what they mean.

Combine this with hammering the 0bama king on his coverups, lies, and such will work.

Most of the folks I am talking about, white libs and black dems don't even know the difference between a private sector and public sector employee...so ditch these words and use something else!

US schools have reprogrammed out citizenry and illegals view USDA foodstamp commercials in Mexico...so that is where we are and re-education from ground up is the only way OR, we just simply say, Dems win and the commies own the country forever.

I'll work cheaply as a consultant and even do it via Logmein or other if they'll have me.


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To: CincyRichieRich

Then spread the word, Rich. We need to get this to the next level.


21 posted on 11/12/2012 5:42:52 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Galtoid
Forget the NRA. Why is it that 85% of the population believes it was Democrats who ushered in the Civil Rights Act?

How come they don't know that it was Democrats that killed the CRA so that Eisenhower wouldn't get credit for it?

How come they don't know that the KKK was established to be the terrorist wing of the Democrat party?

How come they don't know that the military was integrated in the Civil War and was resegregated under Woody Wilson — A Democrat?

How come they don't know that a black man was killed at the Boston Massacre or that there were many black Patriots that fought with the Colonial Army?

22 posted on 11/12/2012 5:44:38 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The Democrats win because of the elite liberal (commie) professors who educated the teachers and journalists of today. They win because the black church teaches obediance to the pastor (Rev Jackson, Rev Sharpton).

We are now a fully pacified Soviet State.
If we start to notice and resist we will be sent to the gulags.


23 posted on 11/12/2012 5:44:50 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I honestly believe this was a voter fraud issue. As voter fraud becomes more rampant, it will become more expensive and attract organized groups that will be a problem for the Democrats.

Imagine a scenario where several precinct captains threaten to spill the beans unless they get more money. The party would be open to blackmail.

The “win by any means” approach is one that cannot be sustained.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 5:45:27 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: CincyRichieRich
CincyRichieRich,
Appreciate the comments. However, I think the most strategic changes needed are in more election reform. Continue to push for photo id to vote, and demand clean up the voter rolls as we did in Missouri. Next, mandatory investigation of obvious voter fraud. For example, when you get more votes than there are registered voters, it should be mandatory to have an investigation under BIPARTISAN supervision. The investigators have to be from outside that district and the judges (plural) overseeing such fraud have to be bipartisan. Mandatory prison terms for getting caught falsifying a vote. Things like that.

If anybody’s asking me, I don't believe Obama won the TRUE vote. That's not to say there isn't validity in your suggestions and those others asking us to get more minority support, and work on getting the message to the voters. That needs to happen, too.

25 posted on 11/12/2012 5:47:58 AM PST by Missouri gal
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To: CincyRichieRich

Good rant. Thanks for being here.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 5:48:26 AM PST by PGalt
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To: CincyRichieRich

If a guy with the baggage that Obama carries can’t get beat... well, you know the rest...


27 posted on 11/12/2012 5:49:16 AM PST by Enduro Guy
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To: SecondAmendment

Did you ever consider that the Republican PARTY wants to be a permanent minority party?


Yes, and that would be so sinister i’d probably vomit on the spot from stress and shock if it was proved to be true. Sometimes based on the “stupid party’s” tactics and methods i do think it is true...McCain through the election in my estimation.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 5:50:17 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: SecondAmendment

Did you ever consider that the Republican PARTY wants to be a permanent minority party?


Yes, and that would be so sinister i’d probably vomit on the spot from stress and shock if it was proved to be true. Sometimes based on the “stupid party’s” tactics and methods i do think it is true...McCain through the election in my estimation.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 5:52:10 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Boycott drones and Leftists. Unless you are in a business and making money off drones and Leftists, have nothing to do with them. The country has never been more divided, and I will be happy to further this effort. Remember these people, and their 0bama signs, when the SHTF. Meanwhile, we nneed to educate the indepoendents and moderates that will still listen to our message.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 5:54:57 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The GOP has embraced selling out America.

That has to stop.

I do not mean competition. I mean selling out America.

We have got to re-introduce some manner of competition to our markets. What we have now is China.

China. Period.

That has to stop now.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 5:57:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: krb

The Dems gerrymandered in California where we lost seats. Historically the Dems have gerrymandered and gained majorities that way and not in a fair election.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 5:58:25 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: CincyRichieRich

Only if the freeloaders are purged and the uninformed get informed.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 5:58:33 AM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: kearnyirish2
The Masters of the Lie ensured that people only saw one side of Romney (until he was able to make an impression in the debates - the filter was removed). The propaganda of the left, if it isn’t countered, will ensure Dem victories for eternity.

Satan is the Great Deceiver and he's having a field day..
34 posted on 11/12/2012 6:00:05 AM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Rove is a disaster.

We need real people, helping real Americans with real problems.

Instead we got the inside-the-beltway scammers led by the rejects of the last administration.

And we continue to sell our factories to China.

For crying out loud. Bring back American jobs. Look in the store next time you go out.

EVERYTHING is made in China.


35 posted on 11/12/2012 6:01:49 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: CincyRichieRich
... so that is where we are and re-education from ground up is the only way ...

You are absolutely correct. Some of us have been doing this for decades, with no pay. That's pretty cheap.

36 posted on 11/12/2012 6:03:34 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: CincyRichieRich
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37 posted on 11/12/2012 6:08:00 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: CincyRichieRich

Much of what you and the other posters here makes sense.

BUT the most important thing is that UNLESS THE GOP RECOGNIZES its REAL problems and that a good part of those problems are DEFECTIVE leadership - in the party (Reince Priebus, the Bushes, the Dana Perinos, the Carl Roves,the McCains, the Lindsey Grahams, the Tom Keane Seniors and the Christies) and in office - JOHN BOEHNER and Mitch McConnell, NOTHING will change.

The GOP CAN and SHOULD reach out to Black Voters and we CAN get some of them on our side.

We can and should reach out to Hispanic-Americans and Asian Americans.

And we CAN do that without compromising our core principles of a smaller, less intrusive government based on the Consitution.
ONE of the MANY reasons Romney lost was his “dissing” the Hispanic Community by ignoring the guy MOST Conservatives wanted as his running mate - Marco Rubio.

Somebody here mentioned Rubio as a candidate in 2016. An EXCELLANT idea. BUT, right now, the LEFTIST media is digging, digging, into Rubio’s past. They are looking for ANYTHING that can be used to twist him into something he is not. And so, the GOP should be working to BUILD up his image to the point where attacks on him in 4 years will be USELESS.

But such advance thinking by the Planarian-brained idiots who currently run the GOP is biologically IMPOSSIBLE. THOSE people need to GO - NOW!!!!

BY THE WAY, although Romney lost, he didn’t do ALL that bad considering all his problems and screw ups. He got MORE electoral votes than McCain did in 2008 and a far higher percentage of the popular votes. Trying to unseat an incbent President is VERy difficult and the ONLY time the GOP did this in the last 100 years was in the Reagan-Carter race. And Romney was NOT Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama - an astute political creature with the full weight of the mainstream meida and Hollywood elites behind him, was NOT Jimmy Carter.


38 posted on 11/12/2012 6:14:27 AM PST by ZULU (See video: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-first-siege-of-vienna.html)
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To: ZULU
"ONE of the MANY reasons Romney lost was his “dissing” the Hispanic Community by ignoring the guy MOST Conservatives wanted as his running mate - Marco Rubio."

Prove MOST conservatives wanted Rubio. No YOU wanted Rubio.

"was his “dissing” the Hispanic Community"

God forbid we should worrying about "dissing" the Hispanic Community. Oh the horror.

Race baiting and identity politics.

39 posted on 11/12/2012 6:25:14 AM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

No one is delusional. People like those you mentioned, and thousands of others are examples of why you should judge a man on the quality of his character rather than the color of his skin. That is a conservative position, straight out of our founding document: “All men are created equal.”

The GOP will not get a majority of minority voters in the near future. They don’t need to. However, they do need to get a larger percentage of that vote. That is not going to happen while pubbies are perceived as racists. A common perception among minorities (even those who would be philosophically predisposed to vote R) is that republicans are uncaring about the poor, only interested in helping the rich, and haters of all people of color. That has to change if the GOP is going to make inroads.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 7:00:12 AM PST by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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