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Ron Paul: Election Shows U.S. 'Far Gone'
The Washington Times ^ | 11-9-2012 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:23 AM PST by blam

Ron Paul: Election Shows U.S. 'Far Gone'

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times
November 8, 2012, 11:56AM

Rep. Ron Paul, whose maverick presidential bids shook the GOP, said in the wake of this week's elections that the country has already veered over the fiscal cliff and he sees no chance of righting ship in a country where too many people are dependent on government.

"We're so far gone. We're over the cliff," the Texas Republican told Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop" program. "We cannot get enough people in Congress in the next 5-10 years who will do wise things." The video can be seen at http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-paul-on-fiscal-cliff-and-vows-to-compromise-MYkAiqYBTaiHwXZL9Tvxkw.html.

Mr. Paul, who is retiring after 12 terms in the House, said voters on Tuesday rejected Mitt Romney because he had opposed the government bailout of General Motors and Chrysler.

"The people in the Midwest voted against him: 'Oh, we have to be taken care of!' So that vote was sort of like what we are laughing at in Greece," Mr. Paul said.

"People do not want anything cut," he said. "They want all the bailouts to come. They want the Fed to keep printing the money. And they don't believe that we've gone off the cliff or are close to going off the cliff. They think we can patch it over, that we can somehow come up with some magic solution. But you can't have a budgetary solution if you don't change what the role of government should be. As long as you think we have to police the world and run this welfare state, all we are going to argue about is who will get the loot."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:27 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Did he campaign for Romney?


2 posted on 11/09/2012 4:27:42 AM PST by Sybeck1 (When do the vodka rations start?)
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To: blam

I don’t agree with some of his positions, but his popularity with (especially younger voters) is they sense he’s as close to the truth, and real change, in politics as you’re going to get.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 4:28:17 AM PST by ransacked
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To: blam

Third party voters did much to screw good men like Romney and Allen West on Tuesday... I don’t know what they thought they were doing but now we are all screwed because of it.


4 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:21 AM PST by rocky88
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To: blam

“Mr. Paul, who is retiring after 12 terms in the House, said voters on Tuesday rejected Mitt Romney because he had opposed the government bailout of General Motors and Chrysler. “

That’s right. People here want to say “oh Romney’s not conservative enough!” but the fact is, his position on bailouts is what killed him in Ohio. Along with the 47% comment.


5 posted on 11/09/2012 4:39:18 AM PST by ari-freedom (Election Day should be after Thanksgiving, not right after Halloween)
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To: rocky88

I actually know one of them. Individual is blocked from cell, email, etc at this point.


6 posted on 11/09/2012 4:46:04 AM PST by MachIV
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To: blam
Having once lost my FR posting privileges for speaking out in support of Ron Paul, I caution members of this august forum against making the same mistake. Just because it's "Free Republic," I am pleased to have been taught, doesn't mean conservatives are free to say anything they want on the subject of freedom and our republic. There are limits, and rightfully so, especially for "PaulBots" and other idiot pro-life isolationist constitutionalist wacko trolls, the likes of which I once, admittedly, was. A good jolt from the Viking Kitties has taught me that freedom has its limits, and after all, the very success of our beloved GOP and its leaders is a result of measured compromise, calculated bipartisanship, common-sense moderation, and dare I say, submission.
7 posted on 11/09/2012 4:50:43 AM PST by golux
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To: rocky88
We are never going to find perfection on this earth. God gave us brains to use. Always vote for the most conservative and Romney was far and away more conservative than Obama.

The layoffs are already happening. People are losing their jobs and many on here stood by and watched it all the while beating their chests proclaiming how righteous they are.

8 posted on 11/09/2012 4:51:58 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: rocky88; MachIV
Are you sure? What numbers are you seeing? I know of not ONE even moderately conservative voter who voted third party or pulled the lever for anyone other than Romney - and this is sort of my business.

What do you make of this?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/18815/the-ron-paul-effect-how-the-gop-threw-the-election-by-disenfranchising-ron-paul-supporters

Do you really maintain "third party voters" screwed the GOP?
9 posted on 11/09/2012 4:59:39 AM PST by golux
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To: ransacked

Agreed.

He’s wackadoodle on about 20% of his positions (e.g., half of his foreign policy). But he’s searingly spot on in the rest of what he says—and I fear that he’s completely correct here.


10 posted on 11/09/2012 5:02:03 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: blam
"We're so far gone. We're over the cliff," the Texas Republican told Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop" program.

Yep with so much at stake in the election, your Libertarians who threw their votes away on boneheads giving the Democrats the Presidency and the Senate are over the cliff.

11 posted on 11/09/2012 5:17:29 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: golux
You actually supported this isolationist, antisemitic nutjob? And you're bragging about it? Just wow.
13 posted on 11/09/2012 5:24:09 AM PST by Artcore
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To: ari-freedom

Paul isn’t criticizing Romney as much as the honey-boo-boo electorate. Many, many posts here seem to agree.

Patience with the “I agree with 90% of what Ron Paul says, but he’s a whacko” people...wearing... thin... WTH is the other 10% - Afghanistan? Drugs ? (A state issue). And was Romney (who conservatives agtreed with maybe 50%) electable?


14 posted on 11/09/2012 5:25:41 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: golux

You’ve got to think tactically.

First, when praising Ron Paul, always mention something about his policies you don’t like. For instance, I always mention that his policy of withdrawing our garrisons from Asia would invite Chinese adventurism. (Which I believe is the truth.) Along with that point, I can then safely mention any of the 85% of his policies I do support.

Second, never combine in the same post Ron Paul praise and criticism of whatever Republican is in fashion at the time. Keep the two separate, and the banhammer will flee you.

Think. Don’t just say things. Keep it brief. Use the rules of rhetoric.


15 posted on 11/09/2012 5:30:04 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Artcore

Its the consistent outright dismissal of this man that’s troubling. Listen to him a bit. He’s the only Republican who even mentions the Constitution.


16 posted on 11/09/2012 5:33:13 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: golux

I almost never agree with Ron Paul but this statement is not just spot on as to what occurred but also a sad foretelling of our future.


17 posted on 11/09/2012 5:33:57 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

I am by no means a Ron-ulian and I certainly didn’t vote for him in the primaries. But I do share the sentiment with those I wish his foreign policy positions had been acceptable.

Given the state of our debt and economy I’m afraid his foreign positions may end up being the only position we can afford.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 5:37:32 AM PST by Honcho
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To: blam

Ron Paul is not a Republican, he is a Libertarian.


19 posted on 11/09/2012 5:39:35 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: ReaganGeneration2
‘Its the consistent outright dismissal of this man that’s troubling. Listen to him a bit. He’s the only Republican who even mentions the Constitution.”
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What's troubling is the man is an anti-semite, and an isolationist. Funny how nobody likes to talk about this nuts writings from a few years back. Thank heaven this creep didn't come near winning the GOP primary.

20 posted on 11/09/2012 5:43:11 AM PST by Artcore
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