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Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss
cbsnews ^ | 11/8/2012 | Jan Crawford

Posted on 11/09/2012 3:33:33 AM PST by gotribe

"We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory," said one senior adviser. "I don't think there was one person who saw this coming."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: ScottinVA

I don’t think democrat VOTERS think zero won, - fair win - either.

When are we going to exit this shocked haze and find the fraud that put him over the top?


21 posted on 11/09/2012 4:13:46 AM PST by txhurl
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To: 109ACS

Very true. As I have listened over the last few years to pundits, advisors, “conservative” GOP insiders commenting whether in interviews or actual hosts on talk radio, one thing that amazed me was their niavity about the prevaling culture of the American people and their cluelessness as to how it has changed over the decades. They apparently live in a caccoon in their upscale burrows and other than airline flights over the masses and overseas they never witness it. I never had any optimism as some did, and frankly the only thing that surprised me in this election was the consensus of positive spirit at how Romney would probably win this. I always figured he would lose it.


22 posted on 11/09/2012 4:16:40 AM PST by MachIV
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To: dgkb

It still doesn’t make sense to me either. There has been a strong motivation for 4 yrs to get Ivan out and then people don’t show up when it counts? I think the race was close enough that some tricks could be pulled in the key states to swing it to the asshat. But we will never know, and if it ever did come out no one will do anything. This government is lawless.


23 posted on 11/09/2012 4:17:20 AM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: MachIV

The GOP had the 2010 Census results.

So I am not buying that the GOP is now so surprised by these “unexpected” shifts.

We are being plied with these false premises of immigration amnesty, Hispandering, and women’s vaginas as being the future of the GOP by the very powers in the GOP that lost this easily winnable election for us.

It is because THEY, the GOP-e, want these things, and are tired of us Conservatives mucking it up for them.


24 posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:37 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: dgkb

It still doesn’t make sense to me either. There has been a strong motivation for 4 yrs to get him out and then people don’t show up when it counts? I think the race was close enough that some tricks could be pulled in the key states to swing it to the asshat. But we will never know, and if it ever did come out no one will do anything. This government is lawless.


25 posted on 11/09/2012 4:21:45 AM PST by Newton (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: dgkb
Call me crazy but there needs to be an investigation into the computer system with the results. It IS a shock! There is something fishy, I believe. How hard would it be to tamper with the computers? We already know numerous people were cheating; voting more than once, and some not even registered. I am a level headed person all the time; and a professional as well but I detect something weird. Doesn’t anybody else?

I agree. There were just too many indicators, from too many varied sources, drawing the same conclusion of a Romney victory for everyone to have been so wrong. Add to that the well-known chicanery the Democrats are so infamous for, and it resulted in what happened the other night.

26 posted on 11/09/2012 4:22:30 AM PST by NH Liberty ("For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus..." [1 Timothy 2:5])
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To: dgkb

yes, isnt it strange, for example, that Wisconsin went completely Republican except for president and senator?

all those folks who wanted GOP state reps voted for obama and the lesbian whatsername?

The tamperers should have at least messed with a few local races to scatter things a bit more logically


27 posted on 11/09/2012 4:29:54 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: gotribe

He couldn’t poll the voting machines.

Fwiu some blue districts had the exact same vote counts for the dem state leg as they did for zero. That is impossible.

Election hacked


28 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:23 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: gotribe

I waited 3 hours in line to vote, I had hope. Lets be honest with ourselves. We ran Donnie and Marie against Al Capones mob. This was too important an election to let this happen. I blame the oldline GOP.


29 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:34 AM PST by ExSafecracker (. .CHANGE !! . . Jimmy Carter is no longer Americas worst President.)
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To: CASchack

I agree.

The GOP seems to have a top flight leadership both in public and behind closed doors that think it is still 2002.

Romney had huge funds, huge motivation and yet so badly under performed. I think he could have been a fine President.

Republicans have got to start playing nasty like they used to. If they don’t they’re finished. There is a serious and worrying void of leadership.


30 posted on 11/09/2012 4:35:48 AM PST by UKrepublican
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To: dgkb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2957390/posts
How weird is this?


31 posted on 11/09/2012 4:40:43 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: NH Liberty

IMHO, your insight is probably correct. In the grander scheme of things, I suspect in God’s Plan, He is simply allowing those out of fellowship and who reject His provision to continue in their own volition, manifesting the ultimate failed consequences of their decisions.

It will become more obvious to all who are saved that rejection of His Plan leads to not only catastrophic conclusions, but those same rebellious volitions will further degenerate into stealing all crowns from those who do not bow down to them. It will become obvious to all souls, for all eternity future, that the Lake of Fire is an eternally just solution for those who reject Him.

IMHO, while the present Administration probably would relish the opportunity to be labeled the AntiChrist or Beast, I suspect they simply are examples for the real one to learn from their mistakes. The Adversary is too legalistic to tolerate or condone the loose thinking of this Administration.

When their utility has waned, they won’t have any value to him than to be made an example of those who disobey his desires. They’re just lackies who rejected God’s provision and think in their degenerate mindset that they can satiate the Adversary, while they are paving the path to their doom.


32 posted on 11/09/2012 4:41:13 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: gotribe; All
Echo chamber mentality. People - even on FR - get fired up one way or another and leave facts behind. Now, it's confessions time . . .

One this board, I resisted the nomination of ‘the mitten’ with hundreds of others. My picks crashed and burned early on for a number of reasons but Newt and Mitt were the pair it boiled down to. I would guess that of those, the majority here supported Newt. I did not because Newt is no conservative - research him and bypass his selected clips and campaign snuggling with conservatives - he's no friend of the Constitution or individualism (BTW, if you're going to write a counter-screed defending Newt, don't waste your time on me). Many times I asserted that I wouldn't vote for either of them when it came down to it.

Well, I did.

There. It's out. I voted for Mitt. I'm not proud of it but I did it to buy time knowing full well that we're still going over the cliff but we'd do so at a moderate and lawful 55 mph rather than having a RAT at the wheel doing 120 mph.

Pragmatism for sure. Also, I'm used to voting for losers and have done so all my life. Living in MN I've probably done more than my share. Truth is, the pubbie party isn't really my party but it serves a purpose as long as it retards socialism.

Some folks, however, are not as ‘pragmatic’ or compromising. I laud them. I also wish that I didn't crawl through broken glass every election to vote for weenies that I know are going to cave with the first huff and puff of the RATs. I salute the principled voters who stood aside and voted their conscience and voted for 3rd party candidates (not the dopes that stayed home however; they're just weenies, too).

These principled voters, though, may have cost the election. I'm willing to guess that when it's all said and done and analysed to death, the margin needed to turn the tide was off tilting at windmills and smooching with a ‘pure’ lover. Fine, I've done the same in a snit many times and can point no finger of condemnation. In fact, what has happened is only inevitable anyway and genuine conservatives with history know this to be true.

Our foundations cannot withstand an immoral and corrupt political class with a complicit electorate, reckless government spending, selfish citizens focused on benefits, a flood of immigrants with alien sensibilities and aid dependence and, most of all, a weakening and apostate (c)hurch that flounders about in doing ‘good works’ and hasn't a clue or care about repentance and brokenness before our God and Creator.

I have worked all of my adult life to avoid this day. I'm am not distraught or afraid, though. Because I have seen this hour (like zillions of conservatives) and I have lived in such a way as to avoid its impacts to a large degree. I am not an island nor do I have a bunker. I am, to varying degrees, trying to apprehend the sovereignty of God and what that means in real, practical terms of life. For one, it does not mean that my defenders are in DC or with a stockpile of weaponry. Like food, the physical realm is needed but it should never rule and is bound to enslave the lives of those who are captive to it. Same with alcohol or prepping or a thousand and one self-sufficient philosophies. Of course, I eat. I have a beer once in a while and I have some firearms. I would defend my life or family, too, but I have found a much greater defender and provider.

Simply put, Christ is my answer.

Yeah, I know. You've heard that from all kinds of losers and people who run from reality into religion. Truth is, I hate religion and run from it too. So did Christ.

What is missing from the lives of most ‘believers’ is the constant need to be broken and willingness to live out the revealed will of God already given to us in Scripture. It leads to faith, not false hope or confidence in self. It leads to family harmony instead of the paranoid ‘us against them’ syndrome. It leads to giving with confidence in God's provision and, yes, that means we also work diligently for our bread. In short, what we have seen and are about to experience is nothing new. History is rife with collapsing societies and mayhem. It is also full of men and women who are willing to take their faith to another level and give themselves to God's care wherever that may be.

Yes, Christians are dying around the world. Like the Iranian pastor, though, many are willing to do so. We may be spared, we may not. Work for your bread and share with brothers and sisters in need. Strive for Holiness in your lives and homes and remember that our lives here are only prologue.

33 posted on 11/09/2012 4:42:07 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: gotribe

Look, Obama votes had been bought and counted for since the Stimulus money could be accounted for.

We all thought ACORN disappeared, but no, they just operated in the dark. Together with Unions, they have delivered the ‘goods’.


34 posted on 11/09/2012 4:42:31 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

>>> Stimulus money could NOT be accounted ......

Unprecendented, exactly. The election was stolen outright.

Both the political system, and the election system had failed the citizens.


35 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:22 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: gotribe

Bottom line......;3 million pubbies stayed home, Romneys ground game stunk and he never went after Bam after charges of murder, felonies and Bain Cap.


36 posted on 11/09/2012 4:45:52 AM PST by kenmcg (t)
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To: gotribe

The reason Obama won was spiritual. I don’t hate Mormons but they don’t hear from God!
Evangelical Christians stayed home and didn’t vote.
If you can’t figure out why we lost you are a freakin’ moron!!!!


37 posted on 11/09/2012 4:47:17 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: gotribe

Halloween mask sales said Romney would win.
Washington Redskins rule said Romney would win.
Reports of “blacks deserting en masse.”
Massive crowds vs. Dwindling drowds at rallies.
Poll Numbers pointing to high turnout with Republicans likely to vote.
Swing States reporting good numbers for Romney.

This was all turned on its head.

What did not change, however, was massive early voting and reports of shenanigans at select polling locations. Would not be surprised if Zero is shell-shocked, too, secretly wishing he could jump off the stage. Too late, pal. You’re holding the bag, and the whole world is watching. Have fun.


38 posted on 11/09/2012 4:48:03 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (double trouble, here we come)
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To: olezip

Quite frankly, I smelled defeat coming when they were making wild claims about winning states like MN and PA. I knew that was BS. Its the wild, semi-delusional crap you hear from people who know they are losing and losing badly.

From what I’ve read, Romney did not invest sufficiently in a ground game in the Battleground states. Obama did. It could well be that some of those folks the Obama campaign got to the polls, voted multiple times, but they turned ‘em out.


39 posted on 11/09/2012 5:02:33 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If the vote doesn’t reflect the true will of the people, Obama’s approval numbers should tank and he should become very unpopular. If the vote numbers are accurate, we’ll see continued support for Obama and his policies.


40 posted on 11/09/2012 5:03:45 AM PST by CASchack
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