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To: drewh

Yes. Romney lost in Florida and Ohio by about the same number as that of libertarian candidate voters.

I think Evangelicals did get out and vote GOP, judging by what I saw in my area. But the libertarians did not, and I have seen FB posts from them bragging about how they “taught the GOP a lesson.”

Self-centered, arrogant...well, I won’t go on.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 4:59:51 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

There is some solace, for those of us who are neither republican nor libertarian; We’re all gonna go down the sh*tter together!


6 posted on 11/07/2012 5:05:31 PM PST by old school
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To: livius
>> I think Evangelicals did get out and vote GOP, judging by what I saw in my area. But the libertarians did not, and I have seen FB posts from them bragging about how they “taught the GOP a lesson.” <<

Ditto. Also judging by the turnout I saw at the two different polling places I worked (one for early voting and one for the regular election), I think turnout was down among both white conservatives and white liberals, compared to 2008. This was the quietest of the last four Presidential elections (2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012) I've seen. There weren't even any union thugs or annoying Dem poll watchers to hang around waiting for the results tape. But black and Hispanics both turned out in big numbers like in 2008, and the vast majority of them voted for Obama.

10 posted on 11/07/2012 5:10:29 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: livius

Those Ron Paul and Gary Johnson fans rejoicing at a Romney loss make me sick; especially when it comes at the expense of our country under a second Obama term. Disgusting. This is exactly why they will never win the loyalties of a majority of conservatives or win the presidency; petty politics. Ron Paul would have gotten taken to the woodshed by Obama…plain and simple. You can’t be meek and subdued and simply spit out counterpoints when facing such a brazen propagandist (you’ll get ripped to shreds); not to mention I’d never support an anti-Semite who passively blames America for 9/11. In this era of big government where they succeeded in making Mitt look like a radical, what do you think they would have done to Ron Paul? Romney was not my first choice, no, but he was the best choice available because he had the professionalism, charisma, intellect and experience to stand-up to Obama. He incessantly called out Obama on his litany of lies and his atrocious record, debated him brilliantly despite the shameless moderators, yet voters simply refused to believe their messiah was a fraud.

The reason Romney lost was because, one…fewer Republicans turned out than in 2008 (which is disgraceful considering what has transpired during the past four years)…two, the media went into overdrive to hide Obama’s failures and scandals while demonizing Romney…and three, we once again got crushed by the minority vote. There is a huge difference between Obama and Romney and if you refuse to see it you are hopelessly lost. If you are a Ron Paul or Gary Johnson supporter, voted for either yesterday, and find any satisfaction or so-called benefit in Obama winning, congratulations. I find no humor or joy in watching America being systematically dismantled and our children’s future tarnished. Even worse, this election may have been our last opportunity to save our fabled republic. What these hypocrites don’t understand is that I would have voted for Ron Paul if he won the nomination – not because I agree with his views – but because there is no greater threat to America than Barack Hussein Obama.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 5:14:45 PM PST by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: livius
Seems to me like the candidate needs to earn the votes he needs. Blaming voters because they didn't vote for Romney is backwards.

/johnny

16 posted on 11/07/2012 5:14:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Perhaps if we had worked with them more. Respected them more. And given them a seat at the table they would not have stayed home or voted for someone else and Mitt would likely be President Elect. Yes many of the Paul supporters are immature but they are passionate and full of energy. And they are young. And the younger generation is a group we need to connect with. And I am well aware of Ron Paul's foreign policy problems but there is still much we have in common. We conservatives rightly object to the way we are treated by the pubbies elite. The Paul supporters rightly object to the way they are treated by both the pubbies elite and conservatives. Overall we have far more in common with Paul supporters than not. While I will not compromise my principles I am not afraid to listen to other points of view. And evaluate and reconsider my positions in light of lessons learned from such discussions. I want everyone in my tent. Provided we work together for the betterment of America and the preservation of freedom.
46 posted on 11/07/2012 5:46:54 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: livius
I think Doug Wilson had a pretty good handle on it. Here is a quote from his blog:

"If you want this conservative to vote with you, stop trying to entice me with non-conservatives. Stop trying to feed bacon to your horse. One of the numbing numbers to come out of this fiasco is the fact that if Romney had simply gotten the same number of votes that McCain did, Romney would have won. This deflation happened without a robust third party candidate siphoning off a large number of votes. The results of this election should not cause us to think we need to "move to the center." Two establishment Republican candidates in a row have gone down, and this second time the centrist lost to a failed presidency. I mean, think about it."

-Doug Wilson

77 posted on 11/07/2012 6:33:10 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: livius

mr. johnson, mr. paul and the libertines were probably pleased that Colorado legalized dope.


93 posted on 11/07/2012 7:56:39 PM PST by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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