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Flood of tears: Bodies of SI boys found after being swept away by Sandy
NY Post ^ | November 2, 2012 | DOUG AUER, JESSICA SIMEONE and LEONARD GREENE

Posted on 11/02/2012 1:51:17 PM PDT by NYer

The nightmare that began when raging storm waters ripped two little Staten Island boys from their mother’s arms reached its tragic conclusion yesterday when their bodies were found in marshlands close to where they disappeared.

Glenda Moore wailed uncontrollably after cops showed up at her Great Kills home yesterday and delivered the grim news.

The short lives of Brandon, 2, and Connor, 4, ended in murky water, under debris and trees toppled by the storm. They were found about 20 yards apart at around 10 a.m. by cops in wet suits using shovels and pitchforks to clear the thick brush.

“It’s a shock for everybody right now,” a family friend said outside the Brooklyn home where Moore retreated to the comfort of family members. “She’s in pain.”

Moore and her husband, Damien — a city sanitation worker who had been in Brooklyn during the hurricane — stopped at a funeral home to make arrangements for the boys, described by a friend as “the joy of their lives.’’

Brandon and Connor were separated from their mother on Monday night as she frantically tried to lead them to safety, away from raging floodwaters brought by Hurricane Sandy.

“Terrible, absolutely terrible,” Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said. “It compounds all the tragic aspects of this horrific event.”

Moore’s Ford Explorer had gotten stuck when she was separated from her boys, police said.

Officials said Moore became frightened when the storm hit, and she rushed out of the house en route to her mother’s home in Brooklyn.

But the SUV, which she packed with a diaper bag, Halloween costumes and decorations, stalled along Father Capodanno Boulevard as the street began to flood.

After calling her husband, Moore grabbed Brandon and Connor and fled the SUV, but rising water caused her to lose her grip as the boys drifted helplessly out of her reach.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: duediligence; heedwarnings; hurricanesandydeaths; responsibility; sandystatenisland; statenisland
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To: TigerClaws

If you saw that, then you also saw the tree roots the mom said she left her kids clinging to. I saw the report myself. The tree roots were about six feet above the ground. The whole area around that massive toppled tree, was deep. Essentially, they were sticking up out of what had become part of the ocean by that point.

This man would have had to go outside in 70-90MPH winds, and swim into deep water to help her get those kids. And this is only if they were still clinging to the roots about 100 feet from his home.

Mom ignored warnings. She didn’t evacuate. She drove her car into what was by then the ocean. And here we are going after a guy who already has a full plate with his own family.

No sale.


21 posted on 11/02/2012 2:34:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: ken in texas

This was how CNN explained it.

In truth, none of them should have been out there.


22 posted on 11/02/2012 2:38:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: VanDeKoik; DoughtyOne
Those poor kids must have been absolutely terrified in the end.

Were I to have to live with this - losing both (all) my kids - I'm not sure I could do it.

I'm guessing the woman could not swim. Otherwise I can't imagine not going after them - even were it to my own demise...

23 posted on 11/02/2012 2:39:33 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: jonno

You should have seen the vehicle. It had evidently been washed off the roadway into a field that was very uneven. The rubber on the front right was missing. Concrete, and rubbish littered the place. Much of the field appeared to be as much as ten feet below the street level. The big tree was in the middle of the lot, it was laying on it’s side, and it’s root structure went up about six feet from the ground. This was obviously full of water the other day. She told authorities she escaped the car, swam to the tree, and left the kids clinging there to go get help.

You tell me if little kids can battle the water and hold on in 70-90MPH winds and waves. Hypothermia would get to them in short order. Heck, she’s lucky to be alive.

She told authorities she swam to the man’s home, knocked on the front door, and tried to break into the back with a brick.


24 posted on 11/02/2012 2:46:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: DoughtyOne

No, she knocked on his front door.

Some people aren’t used to hurricanes or do assume it won’t be that bad. Yes, that’s her fault for not taking precautions and even driving in the middle of a bad storm.

Someone fighting for their life and that of their two small children knocks on your front door and you turn them away?

God have mercy on his soul.

If you don’t live in an area effected by hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, or any natural disaster, lucky for you. Try having a little compassion for those that do.


25 posted on 11/02/2012 3:12:05 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

“Someone fighting for their life and that of their two small children knocks on your front door and you turn them away?

God have mercy on his soul.”

OK, let me get this straight, some crazy black woman tries to break into my house during a hurricane then comes up with some story about her kids being in trouble and I’m supposed to believe her? How do I know that she’s telling the truth and what am I supposed to do? Leave my home open to looting while I go and get myself killed trying to save some kids that I’m not sure even exist while she does what? Sit in my home drinking hot chocolate?

There’s been plenty of cases of good Samaritans either being robbed because it was a scam or even worse getting themselves killed trying to do a rescue that they have neither the ability, training or supported needed to actually do anything other than die in the futile attempt.

Also, where was the father(s) in all this? why were these kids left in the care of someone that obviously was not competent to even take care of herself let alone a couple of kids.

I don’t blame the guy given the circumstances I probably would have done the same thing. If it had been a neighbor or someone I knew and cared about then yes but there are times that you just have to let people suffer the consequences of their own poor choices and this looks to be one of those times.


26 posted on 11/02/2012 3:55:09 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: TigerClaws
No, she knocked on his front door.  The reporter stated that she also admitted to going around and trying to break in the back.

Some people aren’t used to hurricanes or do assume it won’t be that bad. Yes, that’s her fault for not taking precautions and even driving in the middle of a bad storm.  Okay, I appreciate you trying to be even handed by assessing some blame to her.  I still have to judge that it goes beyond that.  She was responsible for those two kids.  If there was any possible chance they might get caught in a terible situation, it was her duty to avoid it at all cost.  I don't think you can make a rather casual comment that, "Okay, she screwed up, but it was his fault."  And that is seemingly where you're headed here.

Someone fighting for their life and that of their two small children knocks on your front door and you turn them away?  This hurricane was at it's zenith, and this guy didn't know how much worse it was going to get.  Does he drop his family and immediately adopt her's, ignoring the safety of his own family?  This guy had no assurance his own home would be safe more than a few minutes longer.  Where's his duty to his own?  He doesn't have any?  I think you know better than that.

God have mercy on his soul.  I hope God has mercy on all their souls.  That mom is going to need it, because in the end, she cost those two kids their lives.  The man did not.

If you don’t live in an area effected by hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, or any natural disaster, lucky for you. Try having a little compassion for those that do.
  Having compassion is not the same as shifting blame away from people if they ignore warnings and get themselves and their children in so much trouble that not they or anyone one else can get them out of it.

That guy shown on the camera was skin and bones.  He wasn't some burly herculean spicimen.  He would have had to go out in hurricane force winds, swim out in very cold water, and fight the elements to rescue kids that may not have even been still holding on by the time the mother went to the front door.  We would all like to make decisions for this guy, but we don't know the total picture.  He almost looked like he had been suffering from an illness.  We have to assume to much, to convict this guy.  Perhaps you would have taken a different approach.  Does that mean that you would have to have been evil if you hadn't?  I don't think so.
27 posted on 11/02/2012 4:09:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: trapped_in_LA

What about a crazy white woman? Would you have let her in? Yes, lots of single women go looting during the height of a hurricane.


28 posted on 11/02/2012 4:36:23 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

“What about a crazy white woman? Would you have let her in?”

I may have considered letting in a crazy Asian woman, but that would have probably been my wife. Other than that probably not, any one trying to break into my home is assumed to be of poor character and not deserving of hospitality, even during a storm. And yes, during Katerina there were tons of single women looters and during the Rodney King Riots here in LA there were again tons of single women looters. Get a clue, women behave badly just like men do.


29 posted on 11/02/2012 4:53:50 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: DoughtyOne

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/tonight-on-ac360-bodies-of-missing-boys-found-mothers-plea-for-help-when-sandy-hit-rejected/?hpt=ac_bn5

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/11/01/two-sons-ripped-from-mothers-arms-in-storm/?hpt=ac_bn3

If someone refuses to open a door to a mother and two small children in a matter of life and death, that person is a cold hearted bastard.

If you think that’s appropriate human behavior, may God have mercy on your lost soul.


30 posted on 11/02/2012 5:14:34 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws
If someone refuses to open a door to a mother and two small children in a matter of life and death, that person is a cold hearted bastard.

The children were not with the mother when she went to the door. Further, the man inside thought he was talking to a man outside. Further, that person outside tried to break in through the back door.

Hell no I wouldn't open the door. If my family was inside, my concern would be for them. PERIOD!

Now, may God have mercy on people who lie about women and children showing up at doors, when they haven't.

31 posted on 11/02/2012 5:19:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Resident NBC NRD N3pmCs HCR / no birth C / no req docs / no 3pm calls / he can read)
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To: NYer
STOLEN AWAY:

No, they lost their lives due to their parents disregard of the warnings of a FRANKENSTORM! What were these people thinking? Not the welfare of their children obviously!

32 posted on 11/02/2012 5:22:47 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (Trained by English Setters)
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To: NYer

Sad, sad, sad ...


33 posted on 11/02/2012 5:23:28 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: wideawake

She lived a couple of doors down from a friend of mine in Great Kills. There is one large tree down on the block and no electricity. She made a tragic mistake leaving her home which was a good 50’ above the storm surge.

That said, an elderly couple died less than 1/4 mile from her home down by the water. I was down there the morning after and it looks like a bomb hit along the water.


34 posted on 11/02/2012 5:51:45 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: trapped_in_LA

DURING the hurricane??? Breaking into homes at the height of a killer storm? Please. Even if they took anything, where would they go??? Any self respecting looter waits till its over.


35 posted on 11/02/2012 6:53:37 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

This woman was monumentally stupid and should be charged with something. What a complete idiot. She is not a victim. She is responsible for their deaths.


36 posted on 11/02/2012 7:55:26 PM PDT by PAR
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To: VanDeKoik
"Their lives cut short by just pure selfishness."

How so?

37 posted on 11/02/2012 9:42:20 PM PDT by cyn (Benghazi. That says it all.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Excellent, thoughtful posts D-1!


38 posted on 11/02/2012 9:48:22 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: NYer

Prayers for this family.


39 posted on 11/02/2012 9:57:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: cyn

Parent not taking the warnings seriously.

Neighbors not opening their homes in an emergency to a desperate mom and her children.


40 posted on 11/02/2012 11:31:01 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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