Hurricane Sandy Live Thread II

NOAA/NHC & Various ^ | 10/29/2012 | NOAA/NHC & Various

[NautiNurse]

Late season Hurricane Sandy approaching the Eastern U.S. coast.

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Hurricane Sandy Live Thread I

[American Constitutionalist]

" If the power is out, where are they going to get the fuel from? Modern gas pumps need electricity. This is going to be a bigger disaster due to incompetence. "

YUUUUP !

And ? the only way to get any kind of temporary electrical power in New York city will be by gasoline or diesel generators...
Hey LIBS ? how's your Chevy Volts doing now in this storm ? or all your so called " renewable fuels " ?
Electric cars don't do well without any electrical power.

Let's see ? a shortage of fuel for those generators and the high cost of that fuel will only make that shortage worse.

HEY NBC ? ABC ? CNN ? CBS ? How's it feel now ? no fuel for your generators and the high cost of that fuel ?
Yeah, Obama nixed the Keystone Pipeline project and banned any new drilling on federal lands.

HEY LIBS ? HOW'S THAT GREEN FUELS WORKING OUT FOR YOU NOW IN NEW YORK CITY ?

GASOLINE AND DIESEL IS THE KING NOW BABY !

[Windflier]

I have been through a number of hurricanes, the last one Ike, and these kinds of nature eruptions are always dangerous and in this one, a number of people have already died.

People in these states will be lucky to be alive after it's over and they will face many hardships to rebuild their lives.

Yes. We're witnessing a tragedy on the scale of 9/11, or even greater. This time, the entire city of New York will be suffering for a long time to come. The cataclysmic effects on them, will have a ripple effect throughout the country.

As if we didn't already need a change in leadership. Good Lord, Romney is going to have his hands full.

[Paul R.]

If the power is out, where are they going to get the fuel from? Modern gas pumps need electricity. This is going to be a bigger disaster due to incompetence.

I can't disagree about that last -- it's usually the case. Those Japanese reactors in the tsunami are a perfect example.

As for fuel, though, one would surely hope the Nat'l Guard would have some gravity feed or manual pump type fuel tanks.

[American Constitutionalist]

This is what should be on headline news:

OBAMA BANNED KEYSTONE PIPELINE PROJECT AND NOW PEOPLE ARE STRANDED IN NEW YORK CITY WITHOUT FUEL !!

[Errant]

NP, This extra water is going to create issues with fires and the FD unable to get to them. Same as we had in N.O.

They finally resorted to using helicopters and "bambi" buckets. Let's pray this doesn't happen here with all the high rise buildings. Talk about a disaster!

[firebrand]

It’s a huge public hospital, with an iconic psychiatric ward. Although some may say “How can you tell?”

[Errant]

is going to may

[Abby4116]

If a cat 1 creates this amount of issues, the folks up north will need to some rethinking as a cat 2 or 3 would be a doozy for them. I can’t imaging what they would do with a cat 4.

If this was a normal Cat 1 storm, 12 hours and it would be gone. The cleanup could begin.

This is NOT normal - extra large, merging with a low pressure area from the west - been raining here in MD since Saturday night and no end yet in sight.

We have weathered Cat 4 storms with less trouble than this one is causing.

[matt04]

Assuming is is diesel, they could pump from a delivery truck similar to the ones used to to fill machinery on construction sites to the containers on site.

[rlbedfor]

No idea. I would assume not in late october.

[dfwgator]

If the power is out, where are they going to get the fuel from? Modern gas pumps need electricity. This is going to be a bigger disaster due to incompetence.

The "Technology Trap". The fragile threads that keep society together get strained more and more with each passing day.

[American Constitutionalist]

" Damage estimate was too low "

Just like the skewed unemployment numbers a few weeks ago ?

Of course ? the MSM will try to hide the damage estimate as long as possible if they think it's going to hurt Obama's re-election chances some how.

Damage estimates ? " will be released AFTER the election "

[firebrand]

You don’t know what N-Woy-U is?

[Windflier]

Also consider all the massive erosion of the soil, concrete infrastructures and concrete foundations underneath New York City. Just getting to the electrical infrastructure will take weeks because it won't be a simple job of just pumping out the water. They will have major soil erosion problems and compromised concrete infrastructures and foundations.

It's nearly too much to comprehend. This catastrophe is going to cost many billions of dollars and untold man hours to put right. I don't doubt that it will also take years to accomplish.

In the meantime, the effects to financial and business markets around the country are going to be severe and (probably) long lasting. If this country ever needed someone at the top who's got the skill, courage, and experience to handle all this - now is the time.

Buck Ofama.

[Darren McCarty]

I'm right on the edges of minor impact in the Ann Arbor area. Wind advisory here - 20mph sustained with some gusts, but not much else. Supposed to rain some. Nothing like a November gale or Spring Thunderstorm.

65MPH gusts though in Port Huron, 100 miles northeast. Lake Huron's waves are already at 17+ feet, and they expect possible 30 ft waves. I hope the boats are all anchored, or there's going to be some shipwrecks.

[metmom]

My IV line had a plug and a battery back up. When the battery got low, it emitted the most annoying beep in the world.

Maybe it was just a gravity drip with the thing monitoring it and it was just an alarm.

I was pretty out of it between the infection and the medications I was on. I’m not going to claim that I was interpreting the equipment correctly considering the condition I was in.

[Windflier]

Apparently, there is 2 feet of water in the basement of Bellvue and they can’t get the generators to work.

Yes, I just saw that report upthread. They're evacuating patients now, so I hear. Catastrophic tragedy.....

[Beach_Babe]

Report from Rockaway:

Streets, basements, and 1st floors flooded. No power, water, or heat. Parts of boardwalk gone ... sections of it blocking entrances to oceanfront buildings. Explosions and fires in stores for blocks along Rockaway Beach Boulevard - from 116th Street down. Most stores have apartments upstairs. Fire trucks cannot respond.

[metmom]

Many FReepers like to wish the worst on NYers thinking they are all libs and deserve it. I have seen worse threads...we are used to it.

I've seen more than enough of that myself.

NYC more than tends to be liberal, but goodness, we're FReepers here. That tends to preclude liberal.

Not to mention that the entire state is NOT NYC, as some seem to think. Upstate has some pretty desolate areas and there are a great number of really solid conservatives.

My section of the state has more cows and guns than people. We don't vote liberal and we don't deserve it.

[PA Engineer]

The "Technology Trap". The fragile threads that keep society together get strained more and more with each passing day.

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