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Hurricane Sandy Live Thread II
NOAA/NHC & Various ^ | 10/29/2012 | NOAA/NHC & Various

Posted on 10/29/2012 10:21:35 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: foundedonpurpose
" If the power is out, where are they going to get the fuel from? Modern gas pumps need electricity. This is going to be a bigger disaster due to incompetence. "

YUUUUP !

And ? the only way to get any kind of temporary electrical power in New York city will be by gasoline or diesel generators...
Hey LIBS ? how's your Chevy Volts doing now in this storm ? or all your so called " renewable fuels " ?
Electric cars don't do well without any electrical power.

Let's see ? a shortage of fuel for those generators and the high cost of that fuel will only make that shortage worse.

HEY NBC ? ABC ? CNN ? CBS ? How's it feel now ? no fuel for your generators and the high cost of that fuel ?
Yeah, Obama nixed the Keystone Pipeline project and banned any new drilling on federal lands.

HEY LIBS ? HOW'S THAT GREEN FUELS WORKING OUT FOR YOU NOW IN NEW YORK CITY ?

GASOLINE AND DIESEL IS THE KING NOW BABY !
581 posted on 10/29/2012 8:57:18 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Marcella
I have been through a number of hurricanes, the last one Ike, and these kinds of nature eruptions are always dangerous and in this one, a number of people have already died.

People in these states will be lucky to be alive after it's over and they will face many hardships to rebuild their lives.

Yes. We're witnessing a tragedy on the scale of 9/11, or even greater. This time, the entire city of New York will be suffering for a long time to come. The cataclysmic effects on them, will have a ripple effect throughout the country.

As if we didn't already need a change in leadership. Good Lord, Romney is going to have his hands full.

582 posted on 10/29/2012 8:59:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: foundedonpurpose
If the power is out, where are they going to get the fuel from? Modern gas pumps need electricity. This is going to be a bigger disaster due to incompetence.

I can't disagree about that last -- it's usually the case. Those Japanese reactors in the tsunami are a perfect example.

As for fuel, though, one would surely hope the Nat'l Guard would have some gravity feed or manual pump type fuel tanks.

583 posted on 10/29/2012 8:59:49 PM PDT by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Windflier
This is what should be on headline news:

OBAMA BANNED KEYSTONE PIPELINE PROJECT AND NOW PEOPLE ARE STRANDED IN NEW YORK CITY WITHOUT FUEL !!
584 posted on 10/29/2012 9:00:03 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: NELSON111
NP, This extra water is going to create issues with fires and the FD unable to get to them. Same as we had in N.O.

They finally resorted to using helicopters and "bambi" buckets. Let's pray this doesn't happen here with all the high rise buildings. Talk about a disaster!

585 posted on 10/29/2012 9:01:33 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Paul R.

It’s a huge public hospital, with an iconic psychiatric ward. Although some may say “How can you tell?”


586 posted on 10/29/2012 9:01:47 PM PDT by firebrand (Beware of wishful thinking--the mousetrap of small minds.)
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To: Errant
is going to may
587 posted on 10/29/2012 9:02:24 PM PDT by Errant
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To: rlbedfor
If a cat 1 creates this amount of issues, the folks up north will need to some rethinking as a cat 2 or 3 would be a doozy for them. I can’t imaging what they would do with a cat 4.

If this was a normal Cat 1 storm, 12 hours and it would be gone. The cleanup could begin.

This is NOT normal - extra large, merging with a low pressure area from the west - been raining here in MD since Saturday night and no end yet in sight.

We have weathered Cat 4 storms with less trouble than this one is causing.

588 posted on 10/29/2012 9:02:24 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: foundedonpurpose

Assuming is is diesel, they could pump from a delivery truck similar to the ones used to to fill machinery on construction sites to the containers on site.


589 posted on 10/29/2012 9:02:38 PM PDT by matt04
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To: dfwgator

No idea. I would assume not in late october.


590 posted on 10/29/2012 9:03:27 PM PDT by rlbedfor
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To: foundedonpurpose
If the power is out, where are they going to get the fuel from? Modern gas pumps need electricity. This is going to be a bigger disaster due to incompetence.

The "Technology Trap". The fragile threads that keep society together get strained more and more with each passing day.

591 posted on 10/29/2012 9:04:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NELSON111
" Damage estimate was too low "

Just like the skewed unemployment numbers a few weeks ago ?

Of course ? the MSM will try to hide the damage estimate as long as possible if they think it's going to hurt Obama's re-election chances some how.

Damage estimates ? " will be released AFTER the election "
592 posted on 10/29/2012 9:05:46 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: foundedonpurpose

You don’t know what N-Woy-U is?


593 posted on 10/29/2012 9:05:50 PM PDT by firebrand (Beware of wishful thinking--the mousetrap of small minds.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Also consider all the massive erosion of the soil, concrete infrastructures and concrete foundations underneath New York City. Just getting to the electrical infrastructure will take weeks because it won't be a simple job of just pumping out the water. They will have major soil erosion problems and compromised concrete infrastructures and foundations.

It's nearly too much to comprehend. This catastrophe is going to cost many billions of dollars and untold man hours to put right. I don't doubt that it will also take years to accomplish.

In the meantime, the effects to financial and business markets around the country are going to be severe and (probably) long lasting. If this country ever needed someone at the top who's got the skill, courage, and experience to handle all this - now is the time.

Buck Ofama.

594 posted on 10/29/2012 9:06:46 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NautiNurse
I'm right on the edges of minor impact in the Ann Arbor area. Wind advisory here - 20mph sustained with some gusts, but not much else. Supposed to rain some. Nothing like a November gale or Spring Thunderstorm.

65MPH gusts though in Port Huron, 100 miles northeast. Lake Huron's waves are already at 17+ feet, and they expect possible 30 ft waves. I hope the boats are all anchored, or there's going to be some shipwrecks.

595 posted on 10/29/2012 9:09:26 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: NautiNurse

My IV line had a plug and a battery back up. When the battery got low, it emitted the most annoying beep in the world.

Maybe it was just a gravity drip with the thing monitoring it and it was just an alarm.

I was pretty out of it between the infection and the medications I was on. I’m not going to claim that I was interpreting the equipment correctly considering the condition I was in.


596 posted on 10/29/2012 9:09:41 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: HollyB
Apparently, there is 2 feet of water in the basement of Bellvue and they can’t get the generators to work.

Yes, I just saw that report upthread. They're evacuating patients now, so I hear. Catastrophic tragedy.....

597 posted on 10/29/2012 9:11:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: All
Report from Rockaway:

Streets, basements, and 1st floors flooded. No power, water, or heat. Parts of boardwalk gone ... sections of it blocking entrances to oceanfront buildings. Explosions and fires in stores for blocks along Rockaway Beach Boulevard - from 116th Street down. Most stores have apartments upstairs. Fire trucks cannot respond.

598 posted on 10/29/2012 9:11:44 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Miss Didi; Windflier
Many FReepers like to wish the worst on NYers thinking they are all libs and deserve it. I have seen worse threads...we are used to it.

I've seen more than enough of that myself.

NYC more than tends to be liberal, but goodness, we're FReepers here. That tends to preclude liberal.

Not to mention that the entire state is NOT NYC, as some seem to think. Upstate has some pretty desolate areas and there are a great number of really solid conservatives.

My section of the state has more cows and guns than people. We don't vote liberal and we don't deserve it.

599 posted on 10/29/2012 9:13:01 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: dfwgator
The "Technology Trap". The fragile threads that keep society together get strained more and more with each passing day.

The Trigger Effect (YouTube)
600 posted on 10/29/2012 9:15:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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