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Now, the episode has taken another turn as more information emerges about what actually happened in Benghazi over the seven hours of the attack – and what US military assets might have been available to protect or perhaps rescue the American diplomatic personnel under fire.

First part of article speaks of some information is informed but "much of it strictly partisan."

1 posted on 10/29/2012 5:58:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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It should be an albatross hung around his neck.


2 posted on 10/29/2012 6:00:43 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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Weasel worded..... Might..... Perhaps....

In the words of that great orator. Joey B... “. Grow a set” and tell it like
It really was


3 posted on 10/29/2012 6:01:21 AM PDT by patriotspride
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Check out who the President and Vice President were meeting with 55 minutes after the attack began:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/2012-09-11

How is it possible that Obama and Panetta have a different version of what occurred that day?

4 posted on 10/29/2012 6:04:11 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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"OK, now ABC, CBS, and NBC, as well as CNN have agreed to broadcast stories about the hurricane 24x7 all this week. And Geraldo has volunteered to be duck-taped to a tree on a New Jersey beach, so that'll be good for a day or two..."


6 posted on 10/29/2012 6:06:03 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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It all boils down to a key factor which is granting

CROSS-BORDER AUTHORITY.

Everything I have read and seen so far is still confirming my initial thinking on the matter, going way back to my days as a NavSpecWar officer who took a SEAL det to Beirut a long time ago.

Once the alarm is sent from Benghazi, dozens of HQs are notified and are in the loop in real time, including AFRICOM and EURCOM, both located in Germany.

Without waiting for orders, they begin planning and executing rescue operations, including getting air support over Benghazi ASAP. But one thing they CANNOT DO without explicit orders from the POTUS is cross an international border. That is the big "red line."

All POTUS has to do is NOT grant cross-border authority, and the entire rescue (already in progress) must stop in its tracks. Ships can loiter on station, but planes fall out of the sky, so they must be redirected to an air base (Sigonella Sicily) to await the POTUS decision on granting CBA. If it never comes, the men in Behghazi must rely only on assets already "in country" in Libya, such as the Tripoli QRF and the Predators.

(And possibly AC-130s that might already have been in Libya: they were last year, but their location on 9-11-2012 is unknown. If they were "in country" but were prevented from firing, that is another situation.)

So if at the 5pm DC time meeting with Panetta and Biden, Obama said, "No outside military action," meaning no CBA will be granted, then THAT IS IT. Case closed.

That constitutes "standing orders" all the way down the chain of command via Panetta to Ham and the subordinate commands trying to rescue the men in Benghazi.

If Obama then goes upstairs to the family quarters to watch TV or sleep, or otherwise makes himself "unavailable," then his last standing orders will stand until he changes them, even if he goes to sleep until the morning of 9-12. Nobody in the chain of command below him can countermand his "standing orders" not to send military forces from outside of Libya into Libyan air space.

Nobody.

Personally, I think he left "no outside miltary intervention, no cross-border authority" standing orders, and then he went to bed. Damn him to hell.

(And to me, the most damning aspect of all is that Obama went to bed while his Ambassador was still missing and presumed kidnapped by Al Queda. Ambassador Stevens might have been on a Youtube video pleading for his life, ready to get the Nick Berg/Danny Pearl "intro to jihad" treatment, and Obama WENT TO BED to rest up for his much more important fund raiser in Las Vegas!)


7 posted on 10/29/2012 6:11:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Yes, the CSM is lending its support to Zero, but it is still an interesting piece. Obama will have difficulty to freely interact with voters and the media during the end of the campaign. He really, really do not want to have questions about Benghazi and who knew what when, and so forth.

Anything to hamstring the last days of his campaign is good, even if it would have been so much better if the story finally got out.

(I must admit, that even though I consider myself a cynic, I really didn’t think they would manage to cover up a story like this. Two American heroes goes against orders and rush towards the danger to save their countrymen, and then are denied help, help that could have saved their lives, all due to political considerations.

This is a script that would have fit right into any Hollywood production or Tom Clancy novel. Woodward and Bernstein would have sacrificed their left arms for a story like that, but no, protection of the One comes first. Disgusting!)


8 posted on 10/29/2012 6:13:46 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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“Khaled al-Haddar, a lawyer who passed by the scene as he headed to his nearby home, said he saw the fighters gathering a few youths from among passers-by and urged them to chant against the film,”

Isn’t it odd that the attackers sought to use the same obsure film as cover as did our government. One might think they were in collusion.


11 posted on 10/29/2012 6:20:44 AM PDT by Josephat
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The people Obama meets on “the campaign trail” don’t care about Benghazi. They probably think it’s the name of a sports car.


12 posted on 10/29/2012 6:22:19 AM PDT by Baynative
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14 posted on 10/29/2012 6:25:27 AM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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Benghazi story is showing up in some local and area media and a few major newspapers.

Even Hurricane Sandy may not be big enough to bury it.

Every day more details on what did and did not happen in Benghazi.

drip drip drip

Those drips could become a flood by the election weekend.


17 posted on 10/29/2012 6:30:14 AM PDT by TomGuy
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What Benghazi tells me is that Buckwheat doesn’t have the backs of Americans nor does he stand with us. If terrorists stage an attack, such as what happened in Beslin when terrorists raped and murdered children in a Russian school, no help will be coming from the criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington.

We are on our own.


20 posted on 10/29/2012 6:32:19 AM PDT by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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28 posted on 10/29/2012 7:53:28 AM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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