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Panetta Says We Lacked Real-Time Benghazi Intel
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | October 27, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 10/27/2012 7:29:20 AM PDT by raptor22

Edited on 10/27/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Despite real-time video, emails to the White House and desperate cries for help, our defense secretary says we didn't send rescue forces to our Benghazi consulate because we didn't know what was going on.

In a statement bordering on the Kafkaesque, Leon Panetta told a news conference Thursday that four Americans, including our Libyan ambassador Chris Stevens, were left to die without a rescue attempt by nearby U.S. military forces because there's "a basic principle here, and the basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place."

That would seem to sum up the Obama administration's assessment of and story line about the Middle East — it has no real-time clue about what's going on. Osama bin Laden is dead, but Islamofascism is very much alive, and to send an ambassador and his diplomatic mission into harm's way without so much as a Marine security detachment with bayonets is unconscionable.

Excuse us, Mr. Secretary, but your administration had a drone over the consulate on Sept. 11...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazigate; cia; consulate; glendoherty; ibd; ibdbenghazi; islamist; islamofascismjihad; leonpanetta; libya; navyseals; panetta; shadowwars; terrorism; terrorists; tyronewoods; waronterror
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To: raptor22

In other words, don’t EVER be calling 9-1-1.


81 posted on 10/27/2012 9:35:13 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for sharing that valuable info.

This is beyond outrageous. It is negligent homicide at least.


82 posted on 10/27/2012 9:35:29 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (John Roberts did more to endanger the lives of Americans than all 9/11 hijackers combined.)
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To: Travis McGee
Top post.


83 posted on 10/27/2012 9:40:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Travis McGee

Contract civilians, workers, albeit ex-SEALS. In a way they were free. They couldn’t be ordered to stand down, they could be fired. So, free of the bureaucracy, they could act and begin to shape the environment.

There must of been hundreds of O-4 and up. Nada. No one wants to end up on the street. It’s a culture thing. The higher you go, the more you are shaped by our supposed elite institutions, the worse it is. Civilization on auto-destruct.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104935/Fire-chief-told-policeman-leave-drowning-man-3ft-deep-lake-half-boot-deep.html


84 posted on 10/27/2012 9:48:52 AM PDT by Leisler (11% GDP of borrowing this year alone, gives 2% ( yeah, right ) GDP boost! Woohoo!)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, thank you for your service, and thank you for explaining this.

What i don’t understand is why Zero didn’t give the go order, so he could be the “heroic” Commander in Chief, saving American lives from terrorists ?

could they have been worried about a black hawk down type ambush ?


85 posted on 10/27/2012 9:49:27 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Obama explains the ALCS: the Yankees actually played great but lost due to mistakes by Joe Torre)
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To: Travis McGee

“Only POTUS can give the order to cross international borders. Only POTUS can allow US warplanes to give air support to Americans battling on the ground in a foreign country. If POTUS makes himself unavailable, the Americans will die.”

Your whole post here was most informative. Thanks Travis for letting us know your inside experience on this sort of operation. Few of us would understand the subject matter as well without your incisive input.


86 posted on 10/27/2012 9:49:52 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: raptor22; Travis McGee; PhilDragoo; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet

A suggestion for all ambassadors/embassy staff posted in dangerous areas. Don’t depend on help from POTUS, SOD or the SOS.

Buy or rent an Iridium Sat Phone and put Fox News Desk on your speed dial, Free Republic, Drudge and Rush to text or call when you need help.

That way the liars of this administration in charge of denying protection for you, can’t deny that you asked for help:

https://www.satellitephonestore.com/iridium-9505a-complete-kit


87 posted on 10/27/2012 9:56:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: raptor22
They were all watching a Real Time War Game, and scrambling to find their JOYSTICKS.
88 posted on 10/27/2012 10:03:51 AM PDT by annieokie (O)
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you for all that you do and for all that you have done.


89 posted on 10/27/2012 10:08:58 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Travis McGee

90 posted on 10/27/2012 10:09:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Travis McGee

Thank you for your insight and service.

The Administration is nuts to believe there are no military personnel who know what you obviously do.

Ambassadors are unarmed representatives of all American citizens. They cannot defend themselves and should necessarily expect to have the US military - on hand - sent immediately once their lives are threatened.

Seems like something any eighth-grader would know.

Then again, this Administration condones the killing of unarmed, unborn citizens.


91 posted on 10/27/2012 10:13:26 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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92 posted on 10/27/2012 10:19:57 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=om93destr)
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To: Iron Munro

actually Panetta is one of those registered communists.he is farther left than Obama, if that’s possible.
Scum! All of them.

I sure know what Bush would have done..or mcCain or Palin or romney/ryan.


93 posted on 10/27/2012 10:32:48 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: DarthVader

Our govt has become so huge and bloated that it has become IMPOSSIBLE to even find out who the hell is responsible for anything, Fast & Furious, this debacle, ANYTHING. Someone made this decision and if one of those soldiers who were killed while these despicable f@#$ers sat and watched was my son, I would never forget, someone should be locked the hell up! I honestly don’t know if I could calm down enough to not take it in my own hands. This is absolutely a swinging from a rope offense. Someone is responsible, and I want them in prison, not transferred to another govt agency with a pension and an increase in pay. Meanwhile, Biden makes a comment to a grieving parent about his son’s ‘balls’, which neither of these gutless wonders know a damn thing about. Yes, I’m mad!


94 posted on 10/27/2012 10:39:46 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Travis McGee

Very well stated!


96 posted on 10/27/2012 10:48:14 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: DarthVader

Start about the one minute mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34


97 posted on 10/27/2012 10:51:03 AM PDT by GOPJ ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOuxqK2T34)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I could not agree with you more/


98 posted on 10/27/2012 10:58:59 AM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: Travis McGee

Travis, you are spot on!

I recall our MCCRES (Marine Corps Combat Readiness Evaluation System) evaluation at Camp Lejeune, NC prior to deploying with the 24th MAU (now MEU’s) to the Mediterranian Sea in 1978.

The evaluation included NEOPs and we were instructed that this evolution of our evaluation was to ensure we were ready to evacuate Non-combatant Americans in any situation and in particular from US Embassies.

We did a dress rehearsal with many Marines dressed as civilians.


99 posted on 10/27/2012 11:15:24 AM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: xzins
A media report on Obama's 20,000 missing anti-aircraft missiles has the ability to bring down Obama.

The Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms will do everything in their power to help the African communist spike the story.

100 posted on 10/27/2012 11:17:43 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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