Obama Supporters Rally Around Anti-Mormonism

Legal Insurrection ^ | October 25,2012 | Anne Sorack

[lbryce]

What would you think if you were told that the most bigoted, intolerant, hateful, and xenophobic political messages this election cycle are being spread by Obama supporters?

From ridiculing and disrespecting the Mormon religion to spreading secretly taped videos recorded by an Obama supporter in a Mormon church, those on the left are sanctioning this particular form of bigotry because it’s all for the cause: Obama.

Nowhere is this more obvious than in the media, where pages upon pages have been devoted to Romney’s religion. Vicious, anti-Mormon rhetoric, ramping up in the final days leading up to the election, has been spread by MSNBC and CNN hosts, the New York Times (they have devoted an entire section of their website to articles about Mormonism), Washington Post, and the Daily Beast’s Andrew Sullivan, to name a few. Yesterday, Breitbart’s John Nolte revealed that Gloria Allred’s October surprise client is spreading anti-Mormon hate around the Internet.

In one recent segment, which I took notes on right after the Tampa convention, Rachel Maddow, having attacked the religion in various ways and perhaps sensing her own intolerance, offhandedly remarked that everything she had said was “ok” because Romney mentioned his faith in his convention speech, rendering it fair game.

A quick perusal of the search results for “Mormon” on Salon.com, which resulted in 5 pages of results, reveals such headlines as “Is Mormon underwear magic,” ”What we should ask Romney about Mormonism,” and “Ann: Mormon missions are just like military service!”

[BlueMoose]

Nice deflection.

[Colofornian]

Go on and be happy in what YOU belive. Let others do the same...Good for you...good for them...Life sure is damn short. Why not just make those close to ya happy and them you? Think ‘bout that some...

Perhaps you should think about what utter nonsense you just wrote:

That happiness is somehow linked to anything anyone wants to believe...doesn't matter what that might be...

That nobody's beliefs should be subject to exposition of what others believe...as if you think Madison Avenue and the NY Times and Jehovah's Witnesses would suddenly stop injecting their worldviews into daily life???

Besides, if you really believed that nonsense, you'd buy into this sermon yourself...

What do I mean by that...?

Well, for starters, you might read Elsie's comments, and then perhaps inwardly respond...and then say to Elsie:

Go on, Elsie, and be happy in what YOU beli[e]ve. Certainly, Elsie, I'll let you do the same...and won't even give you a tinge of negative feedback on your religious expressions. Good for you, Elsie, on what you believe -- including what you believe about Mormons -- and that you've critiqued Mormonism...good for them -- the Mormons -- that they're being critiqued...Hmm...Why don't I just make those close to me happy -- vs. spending ANYTIME at all on FR (or elsewhere online) commenting to others beyond them? Perhaps I should embrace my preachings, after all...and start practing them vs. just preaching them to others...

Obviously, NYTexan, your post is a conglomeration of religious hypocrisy and inconsistency: If you TRULY believed in a live and let live philosophy, you wouldn't be frowning at all upon Elsie's comments and beliefs and expression of those beliefs.

If you TRULY believed that your own comments should stay within your "close ones" "ballpark," you wouldn't have given Elsie a mini-sermon exposing your distinct views.

Think about all this A LOT...and then repent!

[21twelve]

Not sure what you mean by deflection. As I said I recalled the words wrong as “his blood shed for thee”.

Instead they are:

“Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav’n while the earth lauds his fame.”

Seems to mean about the same to me. But if you’re saying that I don’t have to be granted into heaven by Joseph Smith like Brigham Young says, well that is fine by me.

[BlueMoose]

just make things up. Then deflect.

[Elsie]

The cloud I deserve should be tinged with red on the bottom!

[Elsie]

But as a Protestant the lyrics mean about the same...

Ah...

You have discovered the essence of MORMONism!!

[Elsie]

Nice deflection.

HUH?

[Elsie]

just make things up.

Huh?

What exactly do you mean?

[Saundra Duffy]

Again, I thank my Heavenly Father that you are not my judge. My Judge is Jesus Christ and He knows I am His.

[Saundra Duffy]

Oh, this is so priceless. I got banned for almost a year (for being a Mormon) and what has changed? Not much. Anti MormonISM folk are still condemning to hell everyone who don’t/doesn’t believe exactly as they believe. Good thing Jesus Christ is our Judge. Jesus is so wonderful; He suffered and died for me, too - a Mormon.

[Colofornian]

I got banned for almost a year (for being a Mormon) and what has changed? Not much.

Saundra, you're a precious poster...and it was tough to see ya go.

But you didn't get "banned for almost a year (for being a Mormon)"

Your account was suspended for less than nine months -- and the post that "earned" that was this one...when you accused JR and his leadership team of suppressing content on this site...In fact, the exact quote of one of your last posts -- the one JR responded to -- included the phrase: "Only brown-nosers and yes men are left."
Post #40

Your post, Saundra, was that 40th post on that given thread (Jan 21, 2012)...and there wasn't a SINGLE mention (at least up until you got zotted) of ANYTHING Mormon on that given thread.

Why are you engaging in historical revisionism per the details of your account suspension? Why not just come clean? Or leave it alone?

[Elsie]

Yeah, Jesus is your Judge all right...

Jesus: Saundra Duffy: why did you abandon all the teachings of my faithful servant, Billy Graham, in favor of the false prophet, Joseph Smith?

Saundra: Sputter, sputter, sputter...

[Elsie]

I got banned for almost a year (for being a Mormon) and what has changed?

Nothing.

Your persecution complex evidently has NOT been treated, and you are lying as much as before.

 

 

Anti MormonISM folk are still condemning to hell everyone who don’t/doesn’t believe exactly as they believe.

Yes, Sandy, you ARE condemned to hell!

But by your own False Prophet #2, not by us Pro-Christians.

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"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

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Why are you afraid to address what Brigham Young has told you from the grave?

[Saundra Duffy]

You do know that the Rev. Billy Graham ministry removed Mormons from their cult list, right?

[Saundra Duffy]

Wow! In bed with Rachel Maddow. Just wow! (Not to mention Whoopi Goldberg.) The left can’t stand Mormons almost as much as you.

Cheer up - maybe you can get me banned again for being a Mormon.

[Colofornian]

The left can’t stand Mormons almost as much as you.

Mormons, as your local legalists, are easy to love.

Including all my Lds relatives.

'Tis the Mormon false gospel of earning your way into an eternal relationship with Heavenly Father which is deeply disturbing.

[Elsie]

You do know that the Rev. Billy Graham ministry removed Mormons from their cult list, right?

You do know that MORMONism considers the Rev. Billy Graham a minister of SATAN; don't you?

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ADAM: I am looking for messengers.

LUCIFER: Oh, you want someone to preach to you. You want religion, do you? I will have preachers here presently.

(Lucifer turns his head as a PROTESTANT minister approaches.)

LUCIFER: Good Morning sir!

PROTESTANT MINISTER: Good morning!

(The preacher turns and looks into the camera.)

PROTESTANT MINISTER: A fine congregation!

LUCIFER: Yes, they are a very good people. They are concerned about religion. Are you a preacher?

PROTESTANT MINISTER: I am.

LUCIFER: Have you been to college and received training for the ministry?

PROTESTANT MINISTER: Certainly! A man cannot preach unless has been trained for the ministry.

LUCIFER: Do you preach the orthodox religion?

PROTESTANT MINISTER: Yes, that is what I preach.

LUCIFER: If you will preach your orthodox religion to these people, and convert them, I will pay you well.

PROTESTANT MINISTER: I will do my best.

(Lucifer guides the preacher to Adam and Eve, who stand nearby.)

LUCIFER: Here is a man who desires religion. He is very much exercised, and seems to be sincere.

(As Lucifer presents the preacher to Adam and Eve he steps back and observes the ensuing conversation. The preacher is made to sound sincere, although misguided and credulous. Adam appears humble, faithful and immovable in his determination to serve God. He is not swayed by the preacher, and is astounded by the doctrines espoused by the preacher.)

PROTESTANT MINISTER: I understand that you are inquiring after religion.

ADAM: I was calling upon Father.

PROTESTANT MINISTER: I am glad to know that you were calling upon Father. Do you believe in a God who is without body, parts, or passions; who sits on the top of a topless throne; whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere; who fills the universe, and yet is so small that he can dwell in your heart; who is surrounded by myriads of beings who have been saved by grace, not for any act of theirs, but by His good pleasure. Do you believe in such a great Being?

ADAM: I do not. I cannot comprehend such a being.

PROTESTANT MINISTER: That is the beauty of it. Perhaps you do not believe in a devil, and in that great hell, the bottomless pit, where there is a lake of fire and brimstone into which the wicked are cast, and where they are continually burning, but none never consumed?

ADAM: I do not believe in any such place.

PROTESTANT MINISTER: My dear friend, I am sorry for you.

LUCIFER: I am sorry, very very sorry! What is it you want?

ADAM: I am looking for messengers from my Father.

[Elsie]

Cheer up - maybe you can get me banned again for being a Mormon.

No need to ban you; as you are DAMNED by Brigham Young himself!

Enjoy the heat that you are trying SO hard to ignore.

[Elsie]

Cheer up - maybe Resty And PD will show up to help bolster your logical arguments.

[Colofornian]

You do know that the Rev. Billy Graham ministry removed Mormons from their cult list, right?

You do know that the Rev. Billy Graham ministry has had Mormons listed as a "cult" for years and years and years and years...and the absence of such a listing has been now just a few weeks...right?

And since you have so much respect for Billy, please tell us what you think that his Web site listed Mormons as a "cult" for so many years? Surely, you don't think Billy was "wrong" ... "false" ... "deceptive"...all this time???