Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod
Originally Posted on 10/16/2012 2:13:41 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
This is a thread to split the load.
You can watch the debate online here: http://www.youtube.com/politics?feature=inp-hp-ype-26
Town Hall debate.
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It’s not what the media show it’s what they don’t show. I know what stories the media hide. It’s mostly things that they don’t report that causes the false reality. They don’t report anything that will hurt Obama , democrats or socialism.
There was a brief time - right after he was born and his father abandoned them.
It didn’t take long for her to take up with Lolo Soetero.
She was not a single mother during this time - and her husband had a good income.
And then he was shipped back to Hawaii - raised by grandparents - who also had a good income.
This narrative about spending his childhood with a struggling single mom is a lie.
She was horrible, and that the GOP let her pick from the 80 questions was ridiculous. She even managed to get in an “It’s all Bush fault” question. How does this question make it unless it’s a setup...This should give you an idea of how horrible this bitch was.
“I do attribute much of Americas economic and international problems to the failings and missteps of the Bush administration. Since both of you are Republicans, I fear the return to the policies of those years should you win this election. What is the biggest difference between you and George W. Bush, and how do you differentiate yourself from George W. Bush.”
Questions on women’s pay in the workplace, immigration, gun control, etc. all DNC talking points.
How stupid are the clowns running the GOP. Why do they agree to get setup in these debates. No conservative moderators, no control over questions. Every four years we have to put up with this nonsense.
True but it’s hard to believe it was planned. Maybe a fortunate, unintended outcome, but not planned. I think Obama won solely on the LOW expectations from the last debate. Debates are rarely game changers, but we did have one of those and Romney won it.
Rommey is respectful, and he is not talking to Obama in this setting, he is talking to Americans.
More importantly, he *knows* he has the conservative base sewn up: they know now the stakes for the country and will not stay home, and the choice of Ryan (as a budget guy, meshes well with Romney's MBA) is not merely pandering nor a Hail Mary.
And therefore he is talking to the *undecideds* and *leaning Obama* voters: so he phrases things at the level of familiarity of the uninformed, those who get their news from the MSM. Of course he won't be as strident, or as detailed, as the political junkies on FR.
Remember, he ran *and won* in Massachusetts. He knows how to disarm the "right wing nutcase" label, and he is busy doing so.
Cheers!
Well the truth definitely has no inherently saccharine pathos or angst so we’ll just ‘edit’ it a bit, shan’t we?
LOL
Flours....LOL
Well I get the impression that Luntz was trying to pick an accurate (as possible) sample that would tell us something about how the race is going.
Sampling freepers or Rush 24-7 members would not do that even though it may make many here feel good.
I think he is doing the best at this. Hell, if Frank Luntz was stacking the deck for Dems THEN why the hell would RNC Hannity make him a showcase??? That makes NO sense at all.
But it all gets spilled *here*.
Yeah but most Americans don’t see what we see here so they believe that the media created reality is reality but it is not it’s a fake reality.
You may be right. I guess I am just naturally skeptical. If 3/4 of all undecided prior-Obama-voters switched to Romney, that would be extraordinary.
And I think Ryan let a few obvious missiles through and I think those Luntz focus group member comments I reposted were accurate.
I agree. Boy Wonder.
And I do so enjoy personally disavowing them of cherished illusions.
“Woke up” 2 of them just last week.
Not any more. Americans don’t trust the press and see it as biased Left. Let’s not be so quick to throw our fellow Americans under the Obama Bus. Obama was packaged in 2008 in such a way that voters couldn’t tell or know about him. McCain was a terrible alternative.
Given the “facts” about both candidates they chose what appeared at the time to be the better choice. It appears they’ve learned their lesson this time round.
Our job as conservatives is to destroy the ideas that Obama stands for and supports. His loss in November doesn’t get us our country back. Romney isn’t our savior. America’s problems will be solved by Americans - all of us.
You woke them up with a dose of reality, good going!
I hope Americans saw how biased this Candy was.
I hope Americans saw how biased this Candy was. I’m so furious at that Communist liberal pos candy. I hate the media
Campaigns need to start negotiating the mods. Leher wasn't that bad since he let them go, but the others sucked.
Those were some thoughts that had popped into my mind when I saw the first video of that group. But however Luntz did it, the result in the 2nd was very interesting.
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