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Dealership apologizes for error, customer arrest
Virginian-Pilot ^ | September 27, 2012 | Scott Daugherty

Posted on 10/08/2012 5:14:50 AM PDT by billorites

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To: ShadowAce; mazda77; mykroar
At that point it doesn't matter. The cops don't do legal decisions. Once the warrant goes out, that is what they execute.

Then someone screwed the pooch earlier. They shouldn't have sworn out the warrant without sufficient proof from the dealership that a crime was committed.

I don't know exactly what the employee told them, but if he came in with a claim that the someone paid $5,600 less than they were supposed to, then the police should have investigated the circumstances more thoroughly. They should have seen the signed contract, and told the employee to go home.

Of course, if the employee simply said that the vehicle was stolen, then that was an out-and-out lie. He would have to fabricate a complete story that didn't hint there was any misunderstanding -- or the police should have have investigated further.

My point is there was plenty of opportunity for the police to figure out this was simply a dispute over the selling price, if the employee even hinted that it was something besides a guy that took a car for a test drive and didn't return it. Once any paperwork was signed, it became a civil dispute, not a criminal one.

21 posted on 10/08/2012 5:50:28 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: mazda77
Say all you want about out of control cops, but in this case, they were doing exactly what their job spelled out, legally and ethically.

True. And now their job is to issue an arrest warrant against the dealership employee for the false report.

22 posted on 10/08/2012 5:50:57 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: billorites

At a minimum, he should get to keep the SUV that he bought, free and clear, and get a free Corvette ZR1 to park right next to it.


23 posted on 10/08/2012 5:55:16 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: oust the louse

Having a customer arrested seems extreme, too. If Ellmer has any sense, he’ll settle for whatever he can get away with. Swearing out a false criminal complaint is a *HUGE* deal, imho. Whoever reported the “theft” to the coppers needs to do some time. They figure they are big respected auto dealer and this guy is just some little guy they can steamroller. Screw, them, I think $2.3 million would teach them a lesson.


24 posted on 10/08/2012 5:56:12 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Orwell in the throes of a demonic possession could not have come up with the "tuck rule".)
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To: Boomer One

http://www.priorityauto.com/about-us.php

Here’s a photo of Ellmer, as well as all 11 dealerships that he owns.

http://www.priorityauto.com/about.php

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?10931535930

Unfortunately Ellmer is a Republican with donations to Scott Rigell.


25 posted on 10/08/2012 5:58:04 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Boomer One

I understand it is very hard to get a felony arrest off your record. If you are asked have you been arrested for a felony you have to answer yes.


26 posted on 10/08/2012 6:00:20 AM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: billorites
"It is my plan to let him keep the $5,600 and to make Mr. Sawyer right. I can't tell you how I plan to fix it, but it is my intention to make it right," said Ellmer, adding that he would like to sit down and talk with Sawyer.

Translation: "My lawyer said I better do something quick or I am going to get reamed like an 18 year old pretty boy on his first night in a federal penitentiary."

27 posted on 10/08/2012 6:00:20 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: mazda77

The official at he dealership obviously made a false statement to the police, which caused them to issue the arrest warrant. Isn’t that a criminal offense?


28 posted on 10/08/2012 6:01:00 AM PDT by ken5050 (Barack Obama: An empty suit sitting in an empty chair...)
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To: billorites

It’s a Chevy dealer. The owner will just send the bill to the government.


29 posted on 10/08/2012 6:01:26 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Screw, them, I think $2.3 million would teach them a lesson.”

My feelings too. Business operates on a relationship of trust between the client and the provider. Filing a false report to cover up your own mistake needs to be punished.


30 posted on 10/08/2012 6:01:32 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Boomer One; Lonesome in Massachussets
He's owed compensation but $2.2 million is extreme.

No, $2.2 million is not extreme.

The plaintiff now has a felony arrest on his record for grand theft auto. He's a registered nurse. With that on his record, he will automatically be excluded from employment by many potential employers.

The plaintiff may be able to have the arrest record expunged. But, the NCIC system is a nightmare, and once something is in it, completely getting it out is like playing whack-a-mole.

There are inadvertent mistakes, and there is willful negligence. This was willful negligence. I don't like the lawsuit lottery any more than you do, but this is the kind of case where I have no problem with a huge award that will make headlines.

And I'm not worried about putting anyone at the dealership out of a job, other than the people that actually contributed to this negligence (and I think those should be facing criminal charges, personally). As L in M suggested: the plaintiff just became the majority owner of Priority Auto Group.

31 posted on 10/08/2012 6:03:17 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: justlurking

The warrant has to be issued from the court, not the police. It then goes to the warrants section where those officers or designates serve the warrant and make the arrest as so stipulated by the warrant.

Whatever work you do or have done, I’m sure you would be offended if you were lumped into the actions of a few who made poor decisions so please cut the garbage of throwing all officers into the same small basket of bad apples. I would have expected at least the same for you in your profession.


32 posted on 10/08/2012 6:05:22 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Boomer One

This is a case where a business on false pretenses had a customer arrested and charged with theft. We’re not talking about a doctor who practised good medicine but got unjustly sued when his best efforts didn’t prevent the death of a patient.

A man’s civil rights were violated in order to intimidate him into changing a contract. This business needs to learn never to do this type of thing again and other businesses need to take note. As for the amount of the award, it will be up to the judge and jury whether or not the plaintif gets the full amount asked for. The business owner is willing to talk and ‘try to make it good”, so I think the courts will take that into consideration if the aggrieved party wants to be firm on his detirmination to sue!


33 posted on 10/08/2012 6:08:11 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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To: billorites

Must be one of Obama’s selected dealers


34 posted on 10/08/2012 6:08:11 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: justlurking

The only crime committed is buying a Chevy Traverse for $34,000. Rented one this weekend and it was bland, unexciting, noisy and just plain boring.


35 posted on 10/08/2012 6:09:50 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: billorites
"It is my plan to let him keep the $5,600 and to make Mr. Sawyer right. I can't tell you how I plan to fix it, but it is my intention to make it right," said Ellmer, adding that he would like to sit down and talk with Sawyer.

He's gonna keep a lot more than $6500. And he won't be driving no steenking GM product....................

36 posted on 10/08/2012 6:10:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: mazda77
The warrant has to be issued from the court, not the police. It then goes to the warrants section where those officers or designates serve the warrant and make the arrest as so stipulated by the warrant.

So, the employee went to the court to file a complaint? The police never got involved until the warrant was issued?

That's a rhetorical question, if you didn't figure that out.

Whatever work you do or have done, I’m sure you would be offended if you were lumped into the actions of a few who made poor decisions so please cut the garbage of throwing all officers into the same small basket of bad apples. I would have expected at least the same for you in your profession.

If you are offended by my comments about the actions of the police in this particular case, then I think you need to sit down and take a hard look at yourself and figure out why you are offended. Are you feeling guilty about something?

If someone in my profession were to make this kind of mistake, I'd be the first person standing up and saying that I'd throw the book at them. The fact that you aren't doing so says volumes about you.

37 posted on 10/08/2012 6:12:05 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Kent1957

One is generally asked if one has been convicted of a felony, a false arrest with no charges lodged doesn’t have to be reported unless one is being vetted for high security type jobs.


38 posted on 10/08/2012 6:12:30 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (We have grieved the Holy Spirit, with our Dark hearts and dark minds turned against God!)
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To: Orange1998
The only crime committed is buying a Chevy Traverse for $34,000. Rented one this weekend and it was bland, unexciting, noisy and just plain boring.

LOL, I was going to post something about "that's what he gets for buying a Government Motors product", but I was worried that some people wouldn't recognize sarcasm......

39 posted on 10/08/2012 6:13:56 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Orange1998

Have to agree the vehicle is completely average and as a govt motors vehicle I’d be very unlikely to buy one. However, I’d buy a chevy if the dealer paid me $2.2 million to do it.


40 posted on 10/08/2012 6:14:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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