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SCHOOLED Classmate of both candidates stumped by debate outcome
The Daily ^ | Thursday, October 4, 2012 | Mara Gay

Posted on 10/04/2012 6:00:25 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

The man who went to school with both Barack Obama and Mitt Romney and predicted the president would "smoke" the Republican nominee says he is dumbfounded by Obama's poor showing in the first debate.

"I'm surprised. I was shocked, actually," Sidney Barthwell, a district court magistrate in Michigan who attended Cranbrook with Romney and Harvard Law School with Obama, told The Daily. "That was not the Barack Obama I’ve seen through the years. I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something."

Barthwell, who has remained friendly with both candidates over the years and is staying neutral in the presidential race, said earlier this year that he expected Obama to dominate in the face-offs.

“When they debate, Barack will smoke Romney,” Barthwell, 64, told The Daily in May. “Mitt Romney is smart,” he said at the time. “Having said all that, I still think he’s going to get smoked. The best he can do is hopefully come out not looking like a fool. Mitt will find out the hard way as soon as they have their first debate: You don’t debate Obama.”

Barthwell, the only black graduate of Mitt Romney's 1965 class at Cranbrook Schools, the prestigious boarding school in suburban Detroit, said Romney's former classmates have been pulling for the president.

"There’s been a lot of emails going back and forth between people in my class. The vast majority of them are very supportive of Barack and not Mitt Romney," he said. "It’s surprising to me because Cranbrook was a very conservative type of place."

Thursday, Barthwell said he barely recognized the president who appeared on stage at the first presidential debate this week in Denver. The Michigan man said his former law school classmate seemed out of it. "You never see Barack looking down all the time," he said of the president's performance Wednesday night, widely panned as lackluster, at best. "He was actually stumbling over his words. That was not the real Barack Obama in my opinion."

Barthwell also said the president was unusually reserved, even in the face of full-on attacks from Romney - a possible sign, he suggested, of Obama's acute awareness of the politics of race. "It’s possible he doesn't want to appear to be the angry-black man type," Barthwell said.

And the magistrate said it's likely that Romney -- who he described back in May as "not an athlete," "not a student leader" and "not a scholar" -- was simply better prepared for the debate. "Mitt Romney is a smart guy," he said. "He must have prepared for this debate and it was obvious."

mara.gay@thedaily.com


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
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To: Hotlanta Mike

:: Mitt will find out the hard way as soon as they have their first debate: You don’t debate Obama. ::

Yo! Sid!

Here’s where you failed...the common understanding of “debating” Obama means, you get called a racist.

Homey Mitt don’t play that.


41 posted on 10/04/2012 6:48:29 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Real reason for the Denver Obama Meltdown. One toke too many before the debate.


42 posted on 10/04/2012 6:48:56 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I posted this on another thread:

It was easy for obammy in 2008 when he could speak extemporaneously on how he would save everything and GW was the devil. Now he has a 3.5 yr undefendable record to defend. Ain’t so easy.

43 posted on 10/04/2012 6:50:03 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: ilgipper

At no time has Obama proven to be a good debater.

No, he has been a Master Debater this week.....


44 posted on 10/04/2012 6:50:36 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Radagast the Fool
So, is this gonna be the excuse for Zero’s poor showing? He had the flu?

Doesn't matter, as long as they can spin it as Obama was just "off his game". The debate was about the economy, and Obama can't win that on his record. They've successfully made the news about how Obama blew the debate because he just had a bad night, not because he just flat couldn't defend what he's done for the last four years.

I think it's entirely possible that the debate about the economy was intentionally up first, so Obama would "flub" it, and be able to come back strong on debates about other subjects where his record is easier to obfucate. I don't believe for one minute this isn't being coordinated between the press and Obama's campaign.

45 posted on 10/04/2012 7:01:14 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Gee,a government paycheck recipient...and a black one at that...cheering for Osama Obama.Color me stunned.

(No pun intended)

46 posted on 10/04/2012 7:03:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

He’s a black guy. He knows the rules. If a black guy is running, you vote for him nothing else matters. He’s just playing dumb to make Romney look worse.


47 posted on 10/04/2012 7:06:48 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

***That was not the real Barack Obama in my opinion.” ***

Was he kidnapped and replaced with a FUTUREWORLD replica?


48 posted on 10/04/2012 7:07:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MNJohnnie

He’s saying he went to high school with Mitt and law school with Obama.


49 posted on 10/04/2012 7:10:12 PM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike


50 posted on 10/04/2012 7:18:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Where's Yo Dollar?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“I’m thinking the man might have had the flu or something”

I’m thinking a big dose of talking points was the cure all for whatever was ailing the man.


51 posted on 10/04/2012 7:56:12 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia ("Together we will unite America and get this done" - Paul Ryan - August 11, 2012)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Now this guy went to Prep School with Romney in the 1960s, and then went to Harvard Law 20 years later in the 1980s?

Call me a little skeptical unless I'm missing something here.

52 posted on 10/04/2012 8:03:13 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Just curious,did Sam Snead play in a golf tournament in Detroit 65 years ago?


53 posted on 10/04/2012 8:05:03 PM PDT by radioactivereb ("I'm tryin' to think but nothin' happens!"-Curly Howard)
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To: Kennard

“So Obama couldn’t respond to Romney because he didn’t want to appear to be the angry black man type.”

Does anyone else notice there seems to be a pattern lately with the campaign and the MSM pushing the ‘angry black man’ concerns?

obama tape (paraphrased): The ‘black man’ feels pushed down - experiences a quiet riot within - when he’s reached his limit (obama losing?) then he loses it and riots for real.

Tweets: Published tweets from after the debate of (supposedly) black people saying if obama loses the election, they’re going to do ______ to whites (fill in the blank).

obama: Rich people are for non-violence. They don’t want people taking their stuff. (As if that’s somehow an odd thing).

Today I’ve read different accounts of people excusing obama’s debate loss as not wanting to appear as an ‘angry black man.’

Too much to be a coincidence IMO. Anyone else notice?


54 posted on 10/04/2012 8:32:32 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia ("Together we will unite America and get this done" - Paul Ryan - August 11, 2012)
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To: Heart of Georgia
On the topic of Obama as an "angry black man", note Daniel Greenfield's article of this evening in Front Page Magazine.

In my view, this meme is all part of the media's effort to paint anyone critical of Obama as a racist.

55 posted on 10/04/2012 9:12:12 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

“In my view, this meme is all part of the media’s effort to paint anyone critical of Obama as a racist.”

Definitely so, but it seems to go further than that to me - in a thuggish, thinly veiled threat type of way.


56 posted on 10/04/2012 9:55:23 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia ("Together we will unite America and get this done" - Paul Ryan - August 11, 2012)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Who dressed that guy, Stevie Wonder?


57 posted on 10/04/2012 9:58:42 PM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Sidney Barthwell,...who attended ... Harvard Law School with Obama

Holy smokes, after 5 years we finally found a guy that remembers him from college....

58 posted on 10/05/2012 3:35:06 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Hotlanta Mike
attended... Harvard Law School with Obama,

The guy is 64 and Obama is 51 so how is that possible?

I'm thinking this is one of those "We went to different schools together" moments......

59 posted on 10/05/2012 3:39:54 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: Hotlanta Mike

A black man prefers the black candidate?

I’m shocked, shocked.


60 posted on 10/05/2012 3:50:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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