Posted on 09/26/2012 6:02:01 AM PDT by NoobRep
Here are the CBS/New York Times internals. And here's the con the CBS/NYTs is attempting to pull:
Florida:
In 2004 the vote was R+4.
In 2008 the vote was D+3
CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.
Ohio:
In 2004 the vote was R+5
In 2008 the vote was D+8
CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9
Pennsylvania:
In 2010 the vote was D+3
In 2008 the vote was D+7
CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.
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Again, why won't the media report the dramatic news that Democrats are expected to turnout in record numbers against Republicans?
Because the media doesn't believe it.
And yet, that's exactly what media polls claim will happen.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
What column/county are you specifically looking at?
Since early voters are more Democratic versus absentees, I did a little digging. It does look like that your historical numbers are for absentees only, making this a true apples-to-apples comparison.
So, yes, it looks like it really is that good of news as it does appear. Keep up the good work.
Read this ! ↑
If it weren't for the Internet, we would never hear about it.
Another blog grabbed the story: ↓
https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/its-how-they-poll-too-mainstream-media-counts-18000-obama-worshipers-in-unfilled-5000-seat-wisconsin-arena/
Getting hard for the MSM to get away with their usual lies these days...
People and bloggers are on to them!! ↓
http://www.huskermax.com/vbbs/showthread.php?38094-MSM-at-it-again-18-000-supporters-in-5-000-seat-arena-for-Obama-in-Wisc
Blog after blog are reporting the big lies of the MSM: ↓
http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2012/09/politico-national-media-report-18000-sized-crowd-to-see-obama-at-milwaukee-ampitheater-local-media-pegs-it-at-5000-2455454.html
UnSkewed Polling Data
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Poll | Date | Sample | MoE | Obama(D) | Romney(R) | Spread |
UnSkewed Avg. | 9/4 - 9/20 | -- | -- | 44.0 | 51.8 | Romney +7.8 |
Reason/Rupe | 9/13 - 9/17 | 787 LV | 4.3 | 45.0 | 52.0 | Romney +7 |
Reuters/Ipsos | 9/12 - 9/20 | 1437 LV | 2.9 | 44.0 | 54.0 | Romney +10 |
NBC News/WSJ | 9/12 - 9/16 | 736 LV | 3.6 | 44.0 | 51.0 | Romney +7 |
Monmouth Univ. | 9/13 - 9/16 | 1344 LV | 2.5 | 45.0 | 50.0 | Romney +5 |
QStarNews | 9/10 - 9/15 | 2075 | 3.0 | 44.0 | 55.0 | Romney +11 |
NY Times/CBS News | 9/8 - 9/12 | 1162 LV | 3.0 | 44.0 | 51.0 | Romney +7 |
Democracy Corps | 9/8 - 9/12 | 1000 LV | 3.1 | 43.0 | 52.0 | Romney +8 |
Fox News | 9/9 - 9/11 | 1056 LV | 3.0 | 45.0 | 48.0 | Romney +3 |
Wash. Post/ABC News | 9/7 - 9/9 | 826 LV | 4.0 | 45.0 | 52.0 | Romney +7 |
CNN/ORC | 9/7 - 9/9 | 875 RV | 3.5 | 45.0 | 53.0 | Romney +8 |
IBD/CSM/TIPP | 9/4 - 9/9 | 808 RV | 3.5 | 41.0 | 50.0 | Romney +9 |
ARG | 9/4 - 9/6 | 1200 LV | 3.0 | 43.0 | 53.0 | Romney +10 |
UnSkewed Polling Data
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Poll | Date | Sample | MoE | Approval | Disapproval | Spread |
UnSkewed Avg. | 9/4 - 9/20 | -- | -- | 44.1 | 52.9 | Disapproval 8.8 |
Reason/Rupe | 9/13 - 9/17 | 787 LV | 4.3 | 44.0 | 53.0 | Disapproval 9 |
NBC News/WSJ | 9/12 - 9/16 | 736 LV | 3.6 | 44.0 | 54.0 | Disapproval 10 |
QStarNews | 9/10 - 9/15 | 2075 | 3.0 | 45.0 | 55.0 | Disapproval 10 |
NY Times/CBS News | 9/8 - 9/12 | 1162 LV | 3.0 | 44.0 | 51.0 | Disapproval 7 |
Democracy Corps | 9/8 - 9/12 | 1000 LV | 3.1 | 42.0 | 55.0 | Disapproval 13 |
Fox News | 9/9 - 9/11 | 1056 LV | 3.0 | 45.0 | 53.0 | Disapproval 8 |
Wash. Post/ABC News | 9/7 - 9/9 | 826 LV | 4.0 | 45.0 | 49.0 | Disapproval 4 |
CNN/ORC | 9/7 - 9/9 | 875 RV | 3.5 | 44.0 | 53.0 | Disapproval 9 |
Maybe they meant to say 1800...
WaPo blog confirms, and says that “Dems usually vote higher in absentee and early voting” (they mean “early voting”) but they also say it’s going to be higher than in 08. Well, yes-—but not early voting, ABSENTEE voting will be higher, I think, and that will greatly benefit us.
absentee and early voting allows a person to vote in multiple locations and states and precincts.
vote early in one state absentee in another and election day in a third.
does anyone know how many absentee ballots were ordered?
This early voting system is just license for fraud.
Oh that sounds like such fun! I know from past calls if you answer a couple of questions “wrong” they say you don’t fit their criteria for the survey. Next time I will have to have fun with them like you did.
I have this idea running around in the back of my head that if Obama is defeated he will come up with some reason why he can’t leave office...
The sky is not falling just yet. What was nobama’s reason?
We would all do well to not put too much weight into our “feelings” and look more to facts as better to base our actions upon.
they bring one, we bring ten
then post two black panthers, we vote with thousands
they bus in vote fradsters we take pictures at each stop.
who is watching the early vote ballots and the absentee ballots?
Whether Romney is acceptable/non acceptable is TOTALLY irrelevant at this point. The conservatives I know in real life are appalled at the thought of four more years of Obama. Not a single one of them is on the same page as th unappeasable purists that I only know exist because I see them on FR. I know NO ONE who is sitting out/voting third party.
Time to get out some more ~ meet people.
Thanks. My sentiments exactly ...saved me all that typing. :-)
Lmao yeah I’m an agoraphobe!
Seriously! They still have to yammer on FR to try to remain relevant. It’s so beyond the acceptability of Romney anymore it’s not even funny.
Well, any of them really, but for example the Total column for 2012 up top, I take it to mean that 25% of the ballots requested thus far are Rs and 30% are Ds. So am I to take it that the rest of the requested ballots are from Indies... or am I completely misreading this?
Ah, I see. It means, I think, that the D ballots that have come in represent x% of the outstanding absentees. But I posted an email on the thread where you can contact the guy directly. What it does show is the RATIO of returned votes, so even if there are lots of indies out there, we still can see how the Rs and Ds are performing.
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