Posted on 09/19/2012 8:57:43 PM PDT by Qbert
The Pew Research Center gives Obama his biggest lead of the week, finding that he "holds a bigger September lead than the last three candidates who went on to win in November":
With the exception of jobs and the deficit, on which voter opinion is about evenly divided, Obama leads Romney on most key issues, notably healthcare, Medicare, and abortion.And the survey, conducted amid an outbreak of violence in the Middle East and shortly after the killing of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, shows that Obama has a wide edge when it comes to foreign affairs and national security. Far more voters see Obama as a strong leader and as the candidate voters believe would use good judgment in a crisis. Voters also express more confidence in Obama than Romney to deal with foreign policy generally, as well as problems in the Middle East. …
Obama’s overall advantage – he leads 51% to 42% among registered voters – does not narrow significantly when looking only at those most likely to vote. Among 2,192 likely voters, Obama leads Romney, 51% to 43%.
So, in the last 24 hours we've seen a 5-point Obama lead from NBC/WSJ, a 1-point Obama lead from AP-GfK and this 8-point lead from Pew. While the top lines numbers vary from poll to poll, the consistent pattern is some edge for Obama on the overall ballot, plus a lead on most individual issues and a dead heat (or something like it) on the economy. If you consider the fundamental conditions of the 2012 cycle, the fact that Romney hasn't been able to establish a lead over Obama on economic issues is probably the most surprising stat of them all.
... and put into context... oh thats right, they edited the video to make it look and sound worse.
“I won, get over it” - Obama
LOL!!!
Maybe not as inexplicable as you think. Due to the Boca Raton, FL location of the Romney fundraising event, it is reasonable to think that a significant percentage of his audience was Jewish. So Romney included in his talk his frank opinion that the Palestinians were never going to agree to peace with Israel.
This got his leftist detractors in the media unnerved when they saw and heard it in the Mother Jones video. So they demonstrated their true anti-Israel predilections by jumping down Romney's throat as payback.
Republicans have no party discipline.
Nor party unity. Its’ hard to summarize them all in one comment. I been mentally listing them.
One that comes to mind is that both Romney and McCain were forced to flip their past positions to win their primaries. But that leaves a problem, that they end up running without a set of core beliefs that they know how to defend.
So once again we end up with “It doesnt matter who Romney/McCain really is, he is better than Obama”. That is not the makings of a great campaign as we see again.
I like that one you replied to, I forgot I wrote it: ref cool comment#88
Polling data and analysis of voting patterns indicates that Romney is going to win most of the key swing states including the five surveyed by Purple Strategies just a few days ago.
How Mitt Romney is actually defeating Barack Obama in the presidential race examiner.com ^ | 9/24/12 | Dean Chambers
What is amazing is that so many of Romney's allies have been scolding him in public, but not one of Obamas has been saying anything critical of him for a while, yet according to this poll Romney wins big,
Then there are there are the Dems who are confident obama will win(at this moment anyway), and here we got panic and finger-pointing by the Romney supporters.
Maybe there is this tremendously huge iceberg just under the surface that is not visible.....
” Maybe there is this tremendously huge iceberg just under the surface that is not visible..... “
It’s called jobs. The REAL unemployment rate is around 15%.
Former Obama supporters are defecting in droves. Oh, not the
ones on TV, the ones you meet at the supermarket. Ohio is
going for Romney, just because of jobs. Even some unions
are defecting there.
wow, you are really optimist about this election.
I believe this election is going to be a lot less close than the DNCp is trying to convince us it’s going to be. Romney will win, and it won’t be close.
This is not going to be a Bush repeat. It will be closer to a Reagan repeat.
You too? Wow! That is optimism.
You two think Romney needs the debates?
I believe he does. And I do believe he could be harmed by them, if he’s not up to it. One thing is for sure. He could win 99 points and lose on 1, and the DNCp would call it a lopsided Obama victory.
I believe he does. And I do believe he could be harmed by them, if he’s not up to it. One thing is for sure. He could win 99 points and lose on 1, and the DNCp would call it a lopsided Obama victory.
Oops, the dreaded double-whammy post.
There's no reason not to be.
Polls based on the 2008 turnout model -- some even more favorable to Democrats -- are obvious exercises in propaganda. They are expressly designed to demoralize anti-Obama forces.
They can be useful, however. One can adjust the turnout sample to reflect the 2004 election...or even the 2010 election. In either case, Romney emerges victorious -- by a healthy margin.
The reliable polls -- Rasmussen, e.g. -- take a middle ground on the turnout issue...and produce a dead heat.
All the polls nonetheless agree on two things:
1. Romney is winning big among the independents
2. There is a huge enthusiasm gulf between the two parties -- which favors the Republicans.
Consequently, a repeat of 2008 is simply not conceivable. And, if it turns into 2010 all over again, it's a landslide.
You are, in the long run, correct. But you may not be correct this year. The reason I say that is Romney runs ahead of Obama with independents in almost every single poll no matter the D/R/I split. And usually he runs double digits ahead of Obama with independents. If he does that on election day he will win. But that will only delay the inevitable. My grandkids will be living in a socialist dump by the time they reach my age of 61.
Now come on, you say Romney will win in a landslide, but he needs the debates (???) but he can still be hurt by them.
If he will certainly win in a landslide then how can the other two be true?
Your sudden confidence in him winning came from a mixed drink that is wearing off? That happens sometimes :)
” wow, you are really optimist about this election. “
Cautiously optimistic. I hope Romney doesn’t flub the debates.
What is encouraging is that Obama is REALLY floundering around. His attacks on Romney are not working, and Obama keeps putting his foot in his mouth..
“bump in the road”
“eye candy”
He is acting like what he is, a spoiled child in arrested development. Meanwhile, the economy grows worse every week.
Rasmussen the pollster says that, looking deep in the polls lately, it appears that voters still disapprove of Obama, just not as much. That sounds crazy to me, but what do I know. Maybe he is right. We may have a dumber, more greedy electorate than in the past.
But polls, and the data in them, do change.
I think I will have a better feel after the debates.
Does CNN actually show his foot in his mouth consistently? Or do they mention it in passing and then move on?
” I think I will have a better feel after the debates.”
I agree.
More in passing, but people read about it.
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