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Judge Says 10 Rare Gold Coins Worth $80 Million Belong to Uncle Sam
Yahoo ^ | 5 Sep 2012 | SUSANNA KIM

Posted on 09/07/2012 5:47:04 AM PDT by shove_it

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In 2003, Switt's family, Joan Langbord, and her two grandsons, drilled opened a safety deposit box that had belonged to him and found the 10 coins. When the Langbords gave the coins to the Philadelphia Mint for authentification, the government seized them without compensating the family.

The Langbords sued, saying the coins belonged to them. In 2011, a jury decided that the coins belonged to the government, but the family appealed. Last week, Judge Legrome Davis of the Eastern District Court of Pennsylvania, affirmed that decision, saying "the coins in question were not lawfully removed from the United States Mint."

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To: G Larry
YOU are as clueless as they are! Thousands of people own and legally buy, sell, and trade U.S. gold coins, minted before the confiscation. Myself, included. They are NOT illegal to own or sell.

Why don't you use some of your coins to buy a clue? These coins were never issued. Never. They aren't coins that were issued, but were not turned in when FDR seized the gold. These coins left the mint in somebody's sock. Which is why grandpa never sold them -- he knew (expletive deleted) that they were hot.

21 posted on 09/07/2012 6:07:58 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: shove_it
After President Theodore Roosevelt had the U.S. abandon the gold standard, most of the 445,500 double eagles that the Philadelphia Mint had struck were melted into gold bars. However, a Philadelphia Mint cashier had managed to give or sell some of them to a local coin dealer, Israel Switt.

The article does not state whether the mint was selling some of the gold coins to dealers at this time or not.

If they were all supposed to have been turned in, then the cashier basically stole the coins, no matter whether he sold them or gave them away. One cannot legally give or sell stolen property, even if the person receiving it did so in good faith.

However, if the government was allowing some of these coins to be sold to collectors at that time, then the government needs to return them to the family.

22 posted on 09/07/2012 6:11:01 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: ZULU
Nothing outrageous about this one at all.

These specific coins were stolen goods received directly by Israel Switt from the thief.

There is a reason why he hid them in a safe deposit box and did not insure them.

23 posted on 09/07/2012 6:16:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: count-your-change

“What exactly did they think would happen and who advised them to do this?”

“The government is your friend! They are here to help you!!!”


24 posted on 09/07/2012 6:17:14 AM PDT by Lockbar (I promise to move fire-wood twice a day.)
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To: ZULU
I'm so glad that today's journalists have such a firm grasp on American history.

Too many "tell me how you feel" assignments in journalism classes, I guess.

25 posted on 09/07/2012 6:18:21 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: MEGoody
The article does not state whether the mint was selling some of the gold coins to dealers at this time or not.

The article - which is quite sloppily written - does not state this.

But the historical fact is that these coins were never circulated, the coins in question were stolen by a mint employee, and were sold illegally.

26 posted on 09/07/2012 6:19:37 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: ZULU

Those damn sneaky REPUBLICANS!............./s


27 posted on 09/07/2012 6:19:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Lockbar

That phrase was first spoken by General Custer.


28 posted on 09/07/2012 6:20:52 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Scoutmaster

Yes, that is also how I understand it.

Now, that being said, the gov’t cold make a quick $80M by selling them. I can’t afford one, but it would be nice to know that they were safe in private hands. I don’t trust the gov’t not to melt them down out of spite.


29 posted on 09/07/2012 6:21:06 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: VanDeKoik
You take them to the government when you have thousands of appraisers listed in the Yellow Pages???

But be cautious; a lot of those "appraisers" will make you an offer well below market, or ask "how much do you want for them?"

30 posted on 09/07/2012 6:21:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cuban leaf
Some people collect pre-1933 coins and prize them highly for their rarity and beauty.

Your statement makes me (ahem) them cringe at the thought of the loss of physical American history that will outlive our nation.

31 posted on 09/07/2012 6:22:22 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: ZULU

—another example of why I may as well remove the last four words from my byline-—


32 posted on 09/07/2012 6:23:18 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: shove_it

Do these mints still have the molds for these rare coins, in other words, are they still able to make 1933 gold/silver coins, or any other year — if they really wanted to???


33 posted on 09/07/2012 6:24:09 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: shove_it

St Gaudens Double Eagle PING


34 posted on 09/07/2012 6:25:23 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (At the end of the day, you have to worship the god who can set you on fire.)
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To: JimRed

But be cautious; a lot of those “appraisers” will make you an offer well below market, or ask “how much do you want for them?” ...More than what they got.


35 posted on 09/07/2012 6:29:43 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: count-your-change

No, no! It was General Sherman on his road trip through Atlanta to Savannah!.........


36 posted on 09/07/2012 6:31:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: ZULU

“All your property are belong to us”...U.S. Government


37 posted on 09/07/2012 6:31:28 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: PLMerite

The original plan, mentioned in the court filings I believe, was to display them for the public at the Mint.


38 posted on 09/07/2012 6:31:34 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Don Corleone

It was not their property.


39 posted on 09/07/2012 6:34:46 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: agere_contra

—Melting them down would have destroyed their numismatic value - which in this case was considerable.—

The value is zero now.

It’s the ol’ “10% of something is better than 100% of nothing” axiom in action.


40 posted on 09/07/2012 6:42:01 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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