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Jeb Bush to GOP: Time to change the tone on immigration
L.A Times ^ | 8/26/12 | Mark Z Barabak

Posted on 08/26/2012 10:34:12 AM PDT by exbrit

"My personal view is that we need to get beyond where we are," said the former Florida governor, adding a moment later, "You can't ask people to join your cause and then send a signal that you're really not wanted. It just doesn't work."

Bush has previously stated his concerns about the party's hard-line immigration stance and seemed careful on Sunday's "Meet The Press" to balance his views with a hearty endorsement of nominee-to-be Mitt Romney.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; 2012swingstates; aliens; borderslanguage; culture; hispanicvote; illegals; stayoutdabushes
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To: exbrit

Once again: Being against illegal immigration is not the same as being against Hispanic people or Asian people or Canaidians for that matter. Put another way, being against speeding is not the same as being against driving.

This whole issue confounds me on so many intellectual levels.

If you are hispanic, please expalin to me your opinion on how having an enforcing immigration laws is some how racist and therefore, driving you to the Dems? I certainly expect Mexico and Brazil and Chile and all other nations to enforce their laws....and I don’t consider them to be mean spirited and racist. I consider them to be be independent countries enforcing duly enacted laws.

Again, what am missing here?


21 posted on 08/26/2012 11:01:58 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good points. Still, anytime enacted laws are not enforce it’s a huge problem.


22 posted on 08/26/2012 11:04:42 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: exbrit

The Bush’s see the mexican vote as their pathway to the Presidency and could care less about the damage illegal immigration does to this Country.Jeb and the entire Bush crime family,have a sick,twisted,obsessive compulsive need to own the republican Presidency from now into eternity. They deem it their royal birthright and woe onto anyone who gets in their way. They don’t mind if the dems are in power for eight years,as long as the Bush’s rule for every other eight years after that,for as long as the eye can see is all they care about. To that end,i believe the Bush’s have gamed out a long time ago,that the ticket to that is through mexican immigration. The way to capture that vote,is by Appealing to Hispanics,by way of Jeb’s mexican wife and then his half-mexican son,George P.Bush. They want Jeb in for eight years starting in 2016,then eight years of the dems followed by George P.Bush and all by locking up the illegal alien vote. It’s all about the insane lust for power by the Bush family,nothing more!


23 posted on 08/26/2012 11:06:17 AM PDT by mark1973
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To: exbrit
"My personal view is that we need to get beyond where we are," said the former Florida governor, adding a moment later, "You can't ask people to join your cause and then send a signal that you're really not wanted. It just doesn't work."

Let people break the law or else. Plese Jeb, leave for Mexico where lawlessness is embraced and take your whole monarchal family with you.

24 posted on 08/26/2012 11:09:06 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: exbrit

Oh, silly me...I thought he was going to admonish the Dummocraps for calling everyone a racist who wants to uphold the laws. Hey...AFAIC, NO MORE BUSHES; good, decent people, but just too much like Rockefeller/John Lindsay/Rudy Gilliani Republicans.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 11:10:34 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: donna

Don’t lose heart. We will stay focused on the job we must do. Get involved Donna, and stay busy. There are a whole bunch of people who believe we can turn this assault on our country and our rights around. Hang in there!


26 posted on 08/26/2012 11:13:57 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: exbrit

“You can’t ask people to join your cause and then send a signal that you’re really not wanted. It just doesn’t work.”

Like the GOP-E and conservatives?


27 posted on 08/26/2012 11:14:39 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Bushs are prime examples of what’s wrong with the GOP. They are the leaders of what we used to call the Rockefeller Republicans.


28 posted on 08/26/2012 11:16:22 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: exbrit

Stop beating around the bushes...NO MORE BUSH’s! DONE!


29 posted on 08/26/2012 11:16:29 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: Mustangman
I agree with you 100% on that point. But there are steps that can be taken parallel to any enforcement (or lack thereof) that can help offset the costs associated with illegal immigration. I've suggested that something as simple as a two-part approach to a person's legal status in the U.S. would be very effective. These two elements would be:

1. No criminal charges involving an illegal immigrant can be adjudicated in the U.S. criminal court system. An illegal alien who commits a crime is not just a "criminal" from a legal perspective, but a foreign invader. As such, these individuals should be treated as "non-uniformed combatants," and these criminal cases should come under the authority of the U.S. military.

2. No illegal immigrant has any standing in a civil court in the U.S. If legal action is brought against such a person in a civil proceeding, the illegal alien is automatically subject to a default judgement along with whatever penalties that might entail. More importantly, this would mean that no illegal alien has standing to file a civil lawsuit as a plaintiff, and therefore basically resides in this country at his or her own risk.

30 posted on 08/26/2012 11:18:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: DoughtyOne

You and me both. GWB wasn’t my all time favorite, but for the first couple of years he was OK. However, the longer he served, the more he reminded me of what I disliked about his parents.

And now? I’d love it if all the Bushes would move to Mexico. Preferably illegally, so they could learn how illegals are treated in Mexico. And they need to shut up on abortion, immigration, taxes, Obama, Blow-job Billy and every other liberal desire of their hearts...

I’m married to a Filipina who came here LEGALLY. I adopted two children in the Philippines - LEGALLY. Both have served tours in the military as adults. My daughter-in-law is a gal my son met in the Philippines...and yesterday she LEGALLY became a US citizen.

I don’t deserve to be called a racist for opposing unlimited, illegal immigration from Mexico. I don’t want to live in Mexico, and I don’t want my home overwhelmed with Mexican culture - particularly the border culture, which is extremely violent and drug lord dominated!

I’m not a sexist for being shocked by GWB nominating an incredibly unqualified woman to the US Supreme Court. Nor am I sexist for thinking a woman’s CHOICE occurs BEFORE pregnancy begins instead of AFTER.

The senior Bush had an admirable record of service before he ran for President. Wish he had stopped with being VP. GWB was vastly superior to those he ran against...but he did a lot of harm to the ideas of conservatism. The rest of that family can kiss my butt.


31 posted on 08/26/2012 11:19:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: exbrit

“When Hispanics start voting Republican, that’s when we should start representing their immigration interests.”

I’m paraphrasing a famous quote by Albert Shanker, for Teachers’ Union president, that is as follow:

“When schoolchildren start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of schoolchildren.”


32 posted on 08/26/2012 11:20:23 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: exbrit

Bush knows his Presidential dream is over if Romney wins 2 terms with Ryan as his VP.

Is he bitter he didn’t get the VP nod? Is he trying to sabotage Romney?

I say it’s a strong maybe.


33 posted on 08/26/2012 11:21:13 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: exbrit
Jeb Bush to GOP: Time to change the tone on immigration

The Hispanic Caucus agrees with you!

34 posted on 08/26/2012 11:21:38 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: exbrit

You are in tune with my thoughts about Jeb’s comment. It sounds like the guy doesn’t know/understand there is more involved than just being in the USA. Would he take anybody into the ‘cause’ just to win an election. I can see that with a Latino wife he he enjoys the culture but to side with criminals of such culture is beyond being faithful to our laws and Constitution.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 11:24:51 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: TomGuy

Bush the elder was a mediocre president who helped give us Clinton, Bush the younger was an awful president who set the stage for Obama.

I’m done with Bushes.


36 posted on 08/26/2012 11:26:15 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: Mr Rogers

Jeb Bush thinks because he married a Mexican, then the US should ignore the immigration laws and welcome illegals in with open arms.

But the reality is closer to yours and many others, conservatives marry, adopt children, and have relationships with people born elsewhere that are loving, caring and compassionate.

These illegal lovers just don’t get it.

We don’t hate foreigners.

We just don’t welcome foreigners who violate our laws and sovereignty, then make shameless demands and call us racists in our own country because we don’t tolerate their criminality.


37 posted on 08/26/2012 11:27:15 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Alberta's Child

True, as stated in post 15, the big problem is our welfare and benefit program as it draws in illegals like bees to honey (plus a lot of our own would rather get a gov’t check than work). Rampant illegal immigration is more of a symptom than a cause.

Besides a too generous welfare/benefit system, public spending and public borrowing are taking our nation & economy on a suicide dive. I still have hope some Republican politicians know this, so will vote for Romney & other GOP candidates.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 11:29:09 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: exbrit

To quote Pat Paulson

“All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian.”


39 posted on 08/26/2012 11:31:02 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: exbrit

Shut yer trap and go away, Bush. What a family of RINOs.


40 posted on 08/26/2012 11:35:55 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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