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1 posted on 08/18/2012 8:01:29 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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Suicide by police. He knew what beast he was throwing himself into the jaws of.

Though it does sound like the taser was tailor made for this kind of situation, if for any.


2 posted on 08/18/2012 8:03:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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If the threat of lethal force is not instantly neutralized five seconds can seem like an eternity.

On full auto 7 rounds per cop is not unreasonable.


3 posted on 08/18/2012 8:05:31 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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My father in law was a policeman. He told me about the time he tried to shoot a knife out of a guy’s hand.
“It don’t work like in the movies.”


6 posted on 08/18/2012 8:08:10 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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"I'm stunned that six human beings would stand in front of one human being and fire 46 shots,"

I can see it. If I am in a fire fighting for my life against a hoard of zombies and just as fast as I could and quickly reloading for more.
7 posted on 08/18/2012 8:11:46 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Not watching. This stuff shouldn’t be on line


9 posted on 08/18/2012 8:12:38 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Watch? Why would I want to watch another human being losing their life? I don’t care who he is or what he did, seeing someone die is not entertainment.


11 posted on 08/18/2012 8:13:00 PM PDT by FightforFreedomCA (I WILL be voting on November 6th to evict the current pResident.)
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If one shot had been fired and killed him, would the people be as worked up?


13 posted on 08/18/2012 8:14:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Although I cannot comment on this particular situation, I do know that cope are supposed to be trained to avoid pulling out their guns, if possible.

However, once the decision has been made to pull out the gun, you either unquestionably surrender or you risk being shot.

I agree that 46 bullets seem like a lot, but each cop is running under the assumption that the other cops may not be firing their guns. There’s also the reality that some peeps still fire their guns despite having been shot 20 times.


14 posted on 08/18/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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Saginaw County Prosecutor Michael Thomas told CNN that Hall had been “threatening to assault police,” and Gerald Cliff, the town’s police chief, said Hall was "known to be an assaultive person."

"Assaultive"?? I just love cop-speak. They more often-than-not end up tripping over their tongues.

15 posted on 08/18/2012 8:16:04 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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We ought to ask ourselves how, in a life-or-death situation, they might have orchestrated a “cleaner” kill, one less likely to offend public sensibilities.


17 posted on 08/18/2012 8:17:14 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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At least the guy wasn’t handcuffed in the back of a police car when he was shot, like that guy in Arkansas.


18 posted on 08/18/2012 8:24:10 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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At least the guy wasn’t handcuffed in the back of a police car when he was shot, like that guy in Arkansas.


19 posted on 08/18/2012 8:24:25 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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We have an English word that describes what was done to this man - SLAUGHTER!

I carried a badge for over 30 years; this was uncalled for, was incompetently handled, and verges on murder.


20 posted on 08/18/2012 8:25:27 PM PDT by Ed Story
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Sure they squeezed off 46 rounds...

Given some LEO’s inability to hit the broad side of a barn..

How many of them hit their intended target?


21 posted on 08/18/2012 8:26:18 PM PDT by cableguymn
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Once the police start shooting, how many shots they fire is insignificant. Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight. There is a video on the web somewhere of a similar situation in South America. The cops were too hesitant to shoot and the bad guy managed to cut one or two and actually killed one. Remember the 21 foot rule. A person can cover 21 feet before even an experienced person can draw a gun.


25 posted on 08/18/2012 8:31:43 PM PDT by suthener
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Looks to me, after a few viewings, like he was walking away. Somebody got itchy and the rest on hearing the first shot let her rip. That’s the problem with groups with guns. The shoot or don’t shoot training cenerios don’t include all your buddies on your right and left shooting.

Nightmare.


28 posted on 08/18/2012 8:34:48 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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Reports: Albuquerque police activist is mother of Milton Hall, homeless man killed in altercation with police

She said witnesses told her that her son walked into a store for coffee and “either forgot to pay for it or made a remark to the clerk,” which is why the clerk called police.

She said he was holding a “plastic knife, like you would get in the convenience store,” according to reports.

Police said Milton Hall was wielding a 3-inch folding knife.

Several sites, including the Albuquerque Journal and SFGate.com, refer to Jewel Hall as an Albuquerque police critic because she has been pushing for a federal probe of the Albuquerque Police Department over 24 officer-involved shootings since 2010.

http://birchrunchamber.org/reports-albuquerque-police-activist-is-mother-of-milton-hall-homeless-man-killed-in-altercation-with-police/


30 posted on 08/18/2012 8:34:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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Can't tell enough from the video. Perhaps the dead guy suddenly reached for his waistband.

Maybe one of the cops though he/she could shoot the knife from his hand but failed to notify the other officers of the plan.

31 posted on 08/18/2012 8:35:43 PM PDT by fso301
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35 posted on 08/18/2012 8:38:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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That video does not make the officers look very good. There did not look to be a threat that warranted that reaction. A taser was surely indicated, or why did they not use the dog as they had threatened? Shooting has come to be the first alternative now. He was likely shot because he did not obey commands, regardless of any perceived danger. When an officer knows that all he has to do to clear himself of a uniformed killing is to say, “I felt threatened,” he is much more likely to shoot a suspect or a perp just because it is easier than other methods.


37 posted on 08/18/2012 8:41:46 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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