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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I will personally stand up and defend Nana on this forum against any/all charges of anti-Semitism, real or imagined.

WhileI'll demand to see the EVIDENCE!

5,041 posted on 08/18/2012 6:01:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Only VERY strange people are up at 3:12:27 AM, trying to select a certain number...


5,042 posted on 08/18/2012 6:04:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stpio

I resemble that remark!


5,043 posted on 08/18/2012 6:05:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo
This thread is about Romney/Ryan and secondarily about mormonism.

When a thread gets THIS large; one can ALWAYS expect a Mac vs PC argument to break out!

5,044 posted on 08/18/2012 6:08:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stpio
I am not overlooking, it’s obvious, no need to discuss Obama.

We are discussing Romney, this thread is about Romney - you are deliberately ignoring his liberalism. Don't speak of heaven where there is ALL Truth.

5,045 posted on 08/18/2012 6:28:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: sf4dubya

You have been well exposed here, troll.


5,046 posted on 08/18/2012 6:29:59 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: sf4dubya; Kevmo; colorcountry; Godzilla; Tennessee Nana; presently no screen name
Can you repost that somewhere without it being in this cesspool of a thread?

Says the one who has been the main excrement provider and stirrer on the thread.

5,047 posted on 08/18/2012 6:32:49 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: greyfoxx39; sf4dubya; Kevmo

Exactly. Just more confirmation of the troll’s intent.


5,048 posted on 08/18/2012 6:46:17 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jim Robinson

I was born into and baptized by a Roman Catholic family. Taught from first attendance at Catholic grade school in first grade that I am a member of God’s one, true, original Church as established on earth by His Son, Jesus Christ. I truly believe that to this very day, half a century from my first exposure to it. Am I welcome here?


5,049 posted on 08/18/2012 6:55:11 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

Not speaking for Jim, but of course you are welcomed here. What would make you think otherwise?


5,050 posted on 08/18/2012 7:22:51 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: sf4dubya

Your rabid defense of Mormonism says otherwise.
Free speech, really? When was that? Certainly not on this thread.


5,051 posted on 08/18/2012 7:38:35 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: BlackElk
Now for something a little lighter:


5,052 posted on 08/18/2012 7:39:02 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Elsie

Only someone who sings songs of praise to the LORD Jesus Christ in her vegetable garden at 3:12:27 PM would do so...


5,053 posted on 08/18/2012 7:48:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fabian

Reagan was never pro-choice.
Romney has always been pro-choice.
Just because Romney wants to now be called pro-life doesn’t make it so.


5,054 posted on 08/18/2012 7:50:03 AM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya
I certainly don’t go into hysterics over the usage of words I don’t know the meaning of.

I'm sorry that you have such trouble with plain, basic English. It's better to do that than getting all bent out of shape over it.

Could you perhaps re-read it and use a dictionary and then answer the questions?

5,055 posted on 08/18/2012 7:52:22 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: roylene; Elsie

Just because Romney wants to now be called pro-life doesn’t make it so.
__________________________________________

Elsie is tired of herding goats...

she wants to now be called a curelom girl...


5,056 posted on 08/18/2012 7:56:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: roylene

For a great lot of politicians “pro life” actually means “pro choice but with a lot of agonizing about it.” As we’ve found out, making abortion blanket legal did not make it all that safe OR rare. Its reputation as the garbage of medicine continued to dog it.


5,057 posted on 08/18/2012 7:56:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: John W

My first reply to you was a little too short, so I want to add this.

I am a rabid believer that doctors are absolutely the worst thing for your health. They kill more people than almost any other one thing, and that would be automobiles. I believe this with all my heart. So much so, that I did not have my children immunized when they were young, I bore my last two children at home with a certified midwife, and I haven’t been to a doctor since 1989. I’ve gone through every single health issue since that time on my own and I am as strong as an ox.

Now, if I were running for President, I’m sure most people would be really interested in my POV. In fact most Americans would think I was down right daft!

On FreeRepublic, if I posted this belief, I would suspect that most would disagree with me. They would probably post articles and links attacking my belief. It wouldn’t change my mind, it might make me feel bad - but and this is a really huge BUT....They have the right to question me. Just because it is a sincere belief of mine, it doesn’t take all discussion off the table!

You may claim that only a small percentage hold the same belief I have - that would be correct. You may post statistics proving your point. You might call me stoopid. JimRob would absolutely let you say this.

That is how we learn. That is how we keep our freedom - by speech. This is a vital fact our founding fathers recognized and memorialized in the first amendment.

Just because someone doesn’t agree with me that doctors are dangerous, doesn’t mean they hate me. That is a leftist tactic of trying to squelch discussion. People like me were once put to death - accused of witchcraft. That still doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it.

We welcome dissenting views and beliefs at FreeRepublic, that doesn’t mean we agree with them all - OR that discussion of those beliefs are off the table. That would be just plain stupid.

I hope this hijacks the thread to a discussion of Doctors (or Judaism or Catholicism or....) because that is what has happened on this very thread. I am not trying to hijack. I’m trying to make a point.


5,058 posted on 08/18/2012 8:06:09 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: roylene

okay..well Reagan certainly opened the door with the law he signed. Point is that people change...Henry Hyde certainly did!


5,059 posted on 08/18/2012 8:11:46 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: John W
Am I welcome here?

Of course!

5,060 posted on 08/18/2012 8:15:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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