Posted on 08/09/2012 5:40:19 PM PDT by Colofornian
WASHINGTON Concerning Mormons and Republicans, history offers a large helping of irony. In 1843, an Army officer named John C. Fremont led a geographical expedition of 39 men more than 1,700 miles to the shores of the Great Salt Lake. His report on the journey inspired hounded Mormons to mount their wagons and resettle in the Great Basin.
Thirteen years later in Philadelphia, Fremont became the first presidential nominee of the Republican Party, which adopted a platform opposing the "twin relics of barbarism Polygamy, and Slavery." The slogan, and the anti-Mormon sentiment behind it, caught on. A Republican rally in Indianapolis, reportedly attended by 60,000 people, included an ox-drawn parade wagon depicting Brigham Young along with six wives dressed in hoop skirts, each with a little Brigham in her arms.
...In the typology of sociologists Robert Putnam and David Campbell, Mormons remain a rejected "out-group," unlike accepted "in-groups" such as Catholics and Jews. Large majorities of Americans perceive Mormonism as "very different" from their own religious beliefs.
But in this case, the counsel of religious reticence is wrong. Romney should not be afraid to highlight his faith.
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Questions remain about the role of Mormonism in depressing evangelical political enthusiasm. Some religious conservatives are concerned that a Romney presidency would provide theological legitimacy for a rival, proselytizing faith. But it is unclear how silence from Romney on religion would mitigate this fear. And a portion of the evangelical enthusiasm gap is explainable for another reason entirely: the suspicions of social conservatives about the authenticity of Romney's social conservatism.
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This does not mean Romney should quote from the Book of Jarom in his convention speech...
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Coliform, to summarize your wordy treatise:
You’re essentially saying you want Obama for 4 more years, are you not?
Amen! Such hatred towards Mormons is not Christian.
Well, wait... I think one could say that I absoultely DESPISE President Narcissus Obama.
Despise is a form of hate.
But do good Christians love their enemies? No, they fight them — and in fighting someone, you harbor feelings of hate.
That said, one could safely say that there is less reason to hate Mormons for some of their values (polygamy, etc.) than there are to hate someone who wants to kill you (e.g. Islamofascists) or steal your property (Socialist Obama).
These hateful Obama trolls need to learn when it is proper to hate (evil socialists) and when it is irrational to hate (Mormons who have different beliefs that don’t threaten you).
>>The DNC and the Obama Campaign would love it too. Seriously.
Nah. They don’t like the Truth any more than their Useful Idiot counterparts in the American Islamic state of Deseretistan.
What’s the occupancy limit for the space ship to Kolob?
At least L Ron Hubbard’s fiction was slightly more entertaining than Jose’s; but they and their religious work product are both frauds, nonetheless.
Does James P Lewis get Kolobian Ponzi cookies mailed to him “up the ladder” in Federal Prison?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=James+P+Lewis+Ponzi+Mormon
Shine your little light on that, Lucas.
FAIL.
Uhuh. As the brother of Lucifer.NO SALE
Maybe you should just leave it with "I don't think" --- because Thomas Jefferson and the other folks who articulated the American Declaration of Indipendance evidently thought about the purview of religious fraudsters quite a bit:
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;...that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. ""I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
John 14:6
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. "
NIV
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Sedge+Bee+Reformed+Eqyptian+Mormonism+Deseret
You are a bigot, you have obsessive compulsive disorder, you are filled with hate and rage. I imagine you have no friends and everyone that knows you calls you the crazy kook.
You HATE HATE HATE HATE Mormons and you are absolutely obsessed with them for some reason. The question is why. If I was a Mormon, I would be very afraid of you and probably report you as someone to keep an eye on.
Look at your past posts, maybe it will help you realize that you really do need some help.
You are scary, really scary.
So scary you went hunting for more!!! Who are you trying to impress? YOU FAILED BIG TIME!
I forwarded your posting history to several people and they were all just in shock.
LOL!! Shocked to learn what you didn't know - or shocked to learn how UNTEACHABLE you are? That is always a give away... 'the me and everyone else' routine.
I was ashamed to even let them know I frequent this site.
Oh please, anyone posting what you just did isn't ashamed of anything! Not even ashamed of looking as a retard/unteachable!
Reminder The homos scribbled HATE on Chick fil A restaurant.
When you grow up you might want to tackle what hate is - and it is NOT exposing evil. Anyone who embraces evil - hates for it to be exposed. Go check your oil.
Information is being posted and the hate is coming from those who don't want to KNOW it!
So much for 'them' even wanting to be an informed voter. That's how we got romney - immature, unteachable, not politically savy voters - they just don't care. They take it as a popularity contest and NOT about THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR AMERICA.
If their mind is so made up, someone with a least some sense would just move along or not even click on the thread. Like the PDS crowd - they just want to 'drop' their hate bombs. Truly childish liberal behavior!
No I’m not clamoring for more - what other options do we now have at this point?
The damn press has pretty much made the decision for the rest of us that it’s going to be Romney against Obama. We as a nation have got to stop what we are doing and turn Wash around - problem is - the candidates that would be good - that are God fearing men - that have the nation at heart and would do what Reagan did - are not there?
We have allowed a media to turn against the nation - we have allowed over and over certain politicians to get in and stay in office...the people have allowed this mess we are in to be created.
It’s not that we weren’t warned. F/R is an excellent place to come and get this info - but for some reason - this nation keeps sinking in to the hole.
I don’t like Romney anymore than the rest of you like him - but I saw this coming...it’s no surprise. The Tea Party - the conservatives should have drummed him out.
I’m not happy about it what so ever - so I have no idea why people are jumping down my throat and explaining these things to me...either we are the minority and have already lost - or we are the majority and can turn things around - but the being so - there’s more of us sitting around and not taking action...I don’t know — what’s the case is???
I would hope that if Romney gets in he approaches this office to get things back to the way they should be in a business sense cut taxes fro everyone stop over burdening govt regulations and end everything that Obama signed into law or action including that damn health care nonsense! Belief or not its what has to be done whether hell do it I have no idea no Im not counting on it.
Yes I agree what you have placed on there per Thomas Jefferson and we need traditional god-fearing people who have national security international relationships on their agenda and get the US back to the world status it once had screw the rest of the world enough is enough I agree with you all but what are the choices at this point???
>>and we need traditional god-fearing people
Not a god-making one.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=the+god-makers+mormonism
>>The Tea Party - the conservatives should have drummed him out.
When Rainbow RINOs are in charge of The Party?
The solution is to put enough Tea into Capital Hill that any Rat/RINO (or other unAmerican varmint) who manages to infest the White Hut will be impeached.
Anything less is just a continuation of the present dialectic exercise in sheeple herding.
Wrong. It was the GOP!!!
I dont like Romney anymore than the rest of you like him - but I saw this coming...its no surprise. The Tea Party - the conservatives should have drummed him out.
That was the job of RS, MB and Cain. Ever wonder why they walked on eggs shells around him in during the debates but crucified Perry? If you saw this coming, you will know the answer.
We have allowed a media to turn against the nation
Only if you are a TV watcher and EASILY DECEIVED. FR certainly has done it's job of informing and JIM himself was most vocal on it. See how those right on here - NEVER HEEDED THE WARNING!
I have no idea why people are jumping down my throat and explaining these things to me.
Exaggerate much?
I would hope that if Romney gets in he approaches this office to get things back to the way they should be in a business sense cut taxes fro everyone stop over burdening govt regulations and end everything that Obama signed into law or action including that damn health care nonsense!
Just simply amazing!! I see you have no idea about his record in MA. Romneycare is going to repeal obamacare? You really do NOT get it!
Well, all of the above is included in why Obama has that “What me worry?” smile on his face.
You must be that bunny with a pancake on it’s head.
Wade Page and James Eagan Holmes have the same Jewish Gematria
Mormons do not believe in Christ. They accept that Jesus was a man but that his father and him were unique people. The father, God, in Mormon belief, was a man before he become the god of earth. Mormons vehemently reject the trinity.
I would prefer a Congress that is not corrupt. The only solution to this mess is to elect a veto proof Senate and demand that Congress impeach the pretender and try him for high crimes and misdemeaners. I would rather see Obama in prison than Romney as president.
“Romneycare is going to repeal obamacare? You really do NOT get it!”
Yeah - I do get it - we don’t need govt care of any kind...I’m well aware of his pathetic record in MA. Just because I didn’t state it - doesn’t mean I don’t get it. I don’t want the SOB running on the Republican ticket any more than you or any of us on here want him.
The US has put itself in the manner of being spoon feed - we are in the minority - those of us that actually come here - read the full articles - read what others are writing - and do our part to write these senators and representatives that we voted for - hoping they will act...
Outside of an armed revolution - what else is there to do Mr High and Mighty!
I’m on your side on this issue - I don’t ROMNEY - I don’t trust the SOB - I trust the GOP either — I’m highly conservative and it boggles my mind how the US has gotten itself into this state of failure...
WTF is your problem?
“Romneycare is going to repeal obamacare? You really do NOT get it!”
Yeah - I do get it - we don’t need govt care of any kind...I’m well aware of his pathetic record in MA. Just because I didn’t state it - doesn’t mean I don’t get it. I don’t want the SOB running on the Republican ticket any more than you or any of us on here want him.
The US has put itself in the manner of being spoon feed - we are in the minority - those of us that actually come here - read the full articles - read what others are writing - and do our part to write these senators and representatives that we voted for - hoping they will act...
Outside of an armed revolution - what else is there to do Mr High and Mighty!
I’m on your side on this issue - I don’t like ROMNEY - I don’t trust the SOB - I trust the GOP either — I’m highly conservative and it boggles my mind how the US has gotten itself into this state of failure...
WTF is your problem?
I currently see only one thread here by Colofornian among the several dozens of other threads. That hardly constitutes 'flooding'.
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