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It isn't Free Trade that's driving manufacturing jobs overseas.

Massive corporate taxation, limitless legal vulnerability, crushing environmental regulation and pro-Union arbitrary Government: these are why industry chooses to locate away from the USA.

Protectionism would be the final nail in the coffin. The last vestiges of American industry would be turned into feather-bedded welfare cases, and freeborn Americans would be forced to buy their stuff from the Government store.

Protectionism will also increase Government power. The Dems will collect all of that lovely tariff money and spend it on union pension bailouts or some damn thing.

America has tied its own hands behind its back with a ludicrous knot of EPA regulations, crushing taxation and arbitrary Government (just ask Gibsons guitars).

America needs to untie those knots - not wrap itself up in more of them in a fit of misplaced faux-patriotic anger.

It isn't Free Trade that's driving manufacturing jobs overseas.

Except when we address it as Free Trade, folks defend it on that basis. Other than that, you have an interesting point. It's one we've been trying to make for two decades. What's taking place with China isn't Free Trade. I'm glad to see you realize that.

Massive corporate taxation, limitless legal vulnerability, crushing environmental regulation and pro-Union arbitrary Government: these are why industry chooses to locate away from the USA.

Riiiiight. I guess I'd be a lot more interested in joining in with your righteous indignation here if the folks pleading Free Trade was wonderful, an excllent example of Capitalism at it's best, IF THEY HAD admitted that China charging 40% markup on our exports to it had made our trade relationship with it anything but Free Trade. So far, in twenty years, I haven't met one Free Traitor that will. Sure you have a point about our government driving business off-shore, but where was the complaint of China not allowing our goods in import, tariff, or maniulated currency free. The topic was either brought up by us, or the sound of crickets...

Protectionism would be the final nail in the coffin.

Please link me to where I raised this (protectionism) red hering. Failing that, we'll just both stipulate that you raised it when no one else did.

And for the record, admitting our nation is in a coffin with all the nails but one already pounded in, you've got a lot of nerve taking me to task because I said this needs to stop now.

I will give you credit for one thing though. I couldn't have though of a more apropos analogy. Thank you.

The last vestiges of American industry would be turned into feather-bedded welfare cases, and freeborn Americans would be forced to buy their stuff from the Government store.

Yawn.

Protectionism will also increase Government power. The Dems will collect all of that lovely tariff money and spend it on union pension bailouts or some damn thing.

Yawn. Through yet?

America has tied its own hands behind its back with a ludicrous knot of EPA regulations, crushing taxation and arbitrary Government (just ask Gibsons guitars).

Okay, why didn't you just say that? Nobody mentioned protectionism. Excuse me, nobody but you that is.

Should we be going after government? Of course we should. Who has said we shouldn't. You attribute fixes I never called for to me, and abscond with my intended fix for this and act as if you were coming up with something I didn't know needed to be done. Nice trick if you can get away with it. You couldn't.

Lets be honest with each other though. This has not been the traditional response of the Free Traitors though, has it. They have spent close to twenty years claiming "Free Trade" was going to win the day when it came to trade with China. It hasn't, so now they try to shove the blame for all this off on the government. Why did it take you folks so long, if that was the real problem all along? Fact is, it wasn't the main reason our corporations moved off shore and you know it.

America needs to untie those knots - not wrap itself up in more of them in a fit of misplaced faux-patriotic anger.

America needs someone who is going to be honest concerning what transpired here. Manipulating the argument to aleviate any blame from the Free Traitors isn't going to fly. Thanks for playing though.

Don Pardo, tell our guest what parting gifts he's getting...