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Just when you thought the Happy Valley idiots couldn't dig their hole any deeper... do you really want the death penalty, morons?
1 posted on 08/06/2012 5:57:29 PM PDT by Third Person
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IMO, take all football away from them until 2020 and let all their current players and prospects transfer to other schools without penalty. Also, Penn State should pay reparations to anyone molested. Any other suggestions?


2 posted on 08/06/2012 6:11:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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The NCAA should be like my Dad was to us.

“You’re grounded for a week”

“But....but.....”

“Make it two weeks....”


3 posted on 08/06/2012 6:14:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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"permanent damage to an entire generation of student-athletes ... who were innocent of any wrongdoing during their time on campus"

Uh, when was it that the board of trustees started caring about innocent students?

4 posted on 08/06/2012 6:15:45 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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"The Penn State sanctions are not subject to appeal," spokesman Bob Williams said.

Paterno family intends to appeal NCAA sanctions

5 posted on 08/06/2012 6:18:49 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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The NCAA has stated the penalties cannot be appealed—there is no mechanism for doing so. Case closed.


11 posted on 08/06/2012 6:32:02 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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IMHO, this is a good thing-—the ruling was a travesty in many ways—and Unjust—and it glossed over many officials who knew what was happening and who closed their eyes, FOR WHAT REASONS?????? I will guarantee that there are many more rapers of these young, vulnerable boys, men who have been protected (because they are well-connected and wealthy). Homosexual rings always pass the boys around. They are wealthy, highly educated and in positions of power. They seek power over others. (Franklin Cover-up) and the Hollywood rapers of the Corey’s-—passed the boys around among themselves—in group sex. Male homosexuals are all about orgies and with others in sodomizing others. They like an audience.

In studying these homosexual sex rings-—collecting usually around the non-profits that “care” for boys like Boy Scouts organizations, etc.,—there has always been a large number of men involved in the molestations. They work in groups when they are so well-known and “connected”.

There were more Sandusky’s than just one in this case—I guarantee it—who were raping boys from the Second Mile. This case was open and shut in a VERY short time. Very odd. And wasn’t some lawyer killed—like in the Franklin Cover-Up case when they got close to the White House?

As in all the cases, I have looked into-—it is dozens of these perverts. Like the Fabian Socialist, John Maynard Keynes-—they have a “thirst” for boys and a obsession and large group orgies with young boys. This obsession is personified in the myth of Zeus who abducts and rapes the beautiful boy, Ganymedes, his lust is so uncontrollable.

This case stinks-—always has-—but it was a grand cover-up and is why they ended it so fast with such unusual sanctions on people who were not involved in the evil and let evil people skate and get jobs now with Zero.

Unbelievable, the evil in this corrupt judicial system. Look up the evil philosophy of this ex-pres of Penn State. He is one who should be in prison-—but why such a great paying job?????? Read about his sex swinging 20 years ago-—and think he had qualms about sex with boys????? Shush money.

http://nation.foxnews.com/penn-state/2012/07/28/disgraced-ex-penn-state-president-gets-government-national-security-job


14 posted on 08/06/2012 6:39:24 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Kabuki Theater - Act II


15 posted on 08/06/2012 6:44:50 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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Here’s the actual letter - written by ex Navy Seal Ryan McCombie - a newly elected B.O.T. member. Not that any of you baboons would actually want to read it:

06 August 2012

Dear fellow board members

The challenges we have dealt with over the past year have been the most difficult and demanding that any Board of a Public University has ever faced. The issues are incredibly painful and highly contentious and the path that we should follow is anything but clear. Nonetheless, it is our mission to determine what happened without favor or bias toward the responsible parties, just as it is our duty as trustees to act in the best interests of Penn State. I do not believe the recent actions of the Administration and the NCAA have been consistent with that mission, and I cannot but feel that our inaction is a failure in our duty. I believe we owe to all involved – especially our University community – to insist on and require full due process before we accept these penalties.

Due process is not a theoretical concept to me. It is one of the core values that I fought for as a Navy Seal and as a 26-year veteran of the US Navy. I spent much of my adult life in 3rd world countries ruled by tyrannical dictators. Little did I know upon retiring from this exciting yet stressful vocation to bucolic Central PA, that I would become embroiled in a comparable experience here.

I respect Louis Freeh and I appreciate the work he and his staff did to investigate the handling of the Sandusky matter. At the same time, I think it is important to recognize that the Freeh report is not the equivalent of a legal hearing or review. No one testified under oath; multiple key witnesses were not interviewed; accused parties were not given a fair chance to respond; the findings were highly subjective; and several individuals are still waiting to have their day in court. Yet despite these very serious limitations and others, our Board allowed the Freeh report to be presented as a full and fair review, which it most certainly is not; and we stood by passively while the University accepted an unprecedented penalty from the NCAA, based entirely on the findings of the Freeh report. These are grave mistakes that inflict undue harm on the entire Penn State community, in addition to compromising the rights of numerous individuals.

The argument that is given on all of these issues is that we must do whatever we can to serve the victims and act in a way that eliminates the chance that something like this can ever happen again. I support that end and understand the sentiment behind it, but also know that we owe it to our University and the constituencies we represent to demand due process in this matter. Our desire for speed and decisiveness cannot and must not justify actions that clearly and decisively compromise the future of this institution, unfairly tarnish its reputation and violate the rights of accused individuals. If in the rush to put this crisis behind us, we act in a way that limits the discovery of the full truth or unfairly blames certain individuals, while exempting others who rightfully deserve blame, we will have completely failed on the most important task this Board will ever have.

It is for these reasons that I have decided to file an appeal today with the NCAA seeking a full due process hearing. Additionally, I will be, along with others, seeking to determine whether President Erickson had the authority to enter into the consent decree absent Board approval. It is my belief that this matter did require board approval and that we should engage in a full, and complete, review. In the end, we all benefit from having this matter handled correctly and with full regard for due process – only then can we be truly confident in the result and the actions we take as a board. Furthermore, only after we have given all involved the opportunity to be heard can we move forward together as one University.

It is my sincere hope that some or all of you will join me on this path. If you wish to join in my appeal, please contact my attorney, Paul Kelly, at (617) 305-1263, or by email paul.kelly@jacksonlewis.com.

Let me also be clear: I do not do this seeking a predetermined result nor do I claim to know what the final answers will be. If there is blame to be borne by any or all of our officials, a due process hearing will not hide that fact and I will accept it – as will the tens of thousands of Penn Staters out there not assuaged by a limited process.

I know my actions will be poorly received by some on this board and in the community at large. To that end it would be easier to remain silent and allow these unfair actions to remain unchallenged. I cannot do this. As long as I am a member of this board, I will fight to learn the full truth of the Sandusky scandal and then, and only then, endorse the assignment of blame and the imposition of sanctions.

For the Glory,

Ryan J. McCombie


16 posted on 08/06/2012 6:52:15 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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The Bd of Trustees will lose on this one.

They select the President of the University, who in turn is given authority to make such agreements. Even if the President of PSU was to go to the BoT, and they denied the decree, yet the President signed the Consent Decree....the PSU BoT would still not have a case against the NCAA

HOWEVER....this does not apply to the Paterno family suing for JoePa’s lost wins. That case will be won by the Paterno family...and easily

There is already legal precedent for all this

In Tarkanian v NCAA....the Supreme Court ruled that the NCAA did not have to give member schools “due process” (ie. “hearings”), however, it must give “due process” to individuals. The NCAA was allowed to put UNLV (nevada-Las Vegas) on probation...but could not punish coach Jerry Tarkanian without “due process”

In other words....Penn State University will lose in court....but Joe Paterno (his estate) will more than likely prevail in their individual lawsuit (mainly re-instating JoePa’s wins)


17 posted on 08/06/2012 6:53:40 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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The Bd of Trustees will lose on this one.

They select the President of the University, who in turn is given authority to make such agreements. Even if the President of PSU was to go to the BoT, and they denied the decree, yet the President signed the Consent Decree....the PSU BoT would still not have a case against the NCAA

HOWEVER....this does not apply to the Paterno family suing for JoePa’s lost wins. That case will be won by the Paterno family...and easily

There is already legal precedent for all this

In Tarkanian v NCAA....the Supreme Court ruled that the NCAA did not have to give member schools “due process” (ie. “hearings”), however, it must give “due process” to individuals. The NCAA was allowed to put UNLV (Nevada-Las Vegas) on probation...but could not punish coach Jerry Tarkanian without “due process”

In other words....Penn State University will lose in court....but Joe Paterno (his estate) will more than likely prevail in their individual lawsuit (mainly re-instating JoePa’s wins)


18 posted on 08/06/2012 6:54:04 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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21 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:01 PM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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Fight it. Excessive and unwarranted penalty against student athletes who are innocent. For those who object, here's hoping that you yourselves are subject to a group penalty someday for the actions of one person. That's what our society is coming to.
24 posted on 08/06/2012 7:20:46 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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26 posted on 08/06/2012 7:24:22 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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Sucks the players are getting victimized twice.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 7:35:39 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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It’s ALWAYS been about football.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 7:41:25 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (the mature Christian is almost impossible to offend)
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Good move. The sanctions were pathetically knee-jerk / lynch mob. What was the point of taking away all the football players’ wins since 1998? They didn’t cheat, and they certainly had nothing to do with the rest of the homosexual pedophile scandal.

The sanctions should have amounted to money. Lots and lots of money. I hope the players get their wins back and the school gets 100X the fine amount instead. Then, completely shut down the football program for 10 years (and thereby starve every other sport the school sponsors).

Money talks.


56 posted on 08/06/2012 9:09:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Look you bunch of a$$hats, your university got the hell off easy, if I were running the NCAA your teams, NON OF THEM, would ever play under the NCAA banner again... EVER.

Your university, and its leadership knew what was going on and turned decided turning a blind eye to protect the program was more importan than protecting kids.

Frankly the fact the NCAA didn’t throw you out tells me they are nothing more than an associate member of NAMBLA.


75 posted on 08/07/2012 7:31:45 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Hunh. These so called ‘trustees’ hired a retired Navy SEAL to be their front man. Another group of university weenies thinking they deserve no punishments for allowing decades of violent sexual child abuse at Pedo State U.


77 posted on 08/07/2012 7:36:45 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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