Obama losing a majority ... who think he's a Christian

Los Angeles Times ^ | July 27, 2012 | James Rainey

[ConservativeStatement]

President Obama is struggling to get to 50% — not just of voters in November -- but of Americans, at any time, who will recognize that he is a Christian.

The Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion and Public Life released a survey Thursday showing that just 49% of Americans described the president as a Christian, while 17% said they believed he was Muslim. Just before the 2008 election, a majority, 55%, described then-candidate Obama’s faith as Christian, while just 12% said he was Muslim.

[expat2]

I don’t know whether he is a Muslim, or not, but he is certainly a Muslim sympathizer.

[Carry_Okie]

He’s not so much Muslim as he is anti-christian.

As far as a Muslim is concerned, repudiation of the moon god bears a death penalty, regardless of what subsequent belief is adopted. Whether or not he is apostate is not a matter of what I think, but what they think. There is no fatwa.

[ETL]

I believe there are more humans who believe in the Tooth Fairy than believe he isn’t a Muslim...certainly NOT a Christian.

He isn't seriously religious at all. He's a communist. Commies despise and mock religion. He only USES religion to gather support.

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

[ETL]

I don’t know whether he is a Muslim, or not, but he is certainly a Muslim sympathizer.

From AsiaTimesOnline
Feb 26, 2008

"Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

[ETL]

Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
by David Horowitz

Amazon Book Review:
"Vastly Illuminating!" September 25, 2004
By Kat Bakhu

"I had long wondered why people on the Left had the propensity to speak more positively about people who would slit their throats than they do about their own country, which affords them more freedom and opportunity than anywhere else. David Horowitz has answered that question thoroughly and convincingly in his Unholy Alliance. Where I felt bewildered and confused, I now feel crystal clear. Unholy Alliance is such a great book.

It begins with the leftist movements at the beginning of the 20th Century, and works its way up to the present day, exploring the anti-American attitude of these movements in detail. Horowitz shows that the enemies of the US back then are largely the same group today, operating under the same misperceptions, making the same mistakes, and pursuing the same impossible utopia.

Individual chapters are included on the Patriot Act (I was persuaded that it is a GOOD thing); the democratic flip-flop on Iraq once G.W. Bush implemented what they agreed with Clinton needed to be done; the driving components of the current anti-war movement; as well as chapters on individual personalities who are major spokespeople of the Left. Horowitz covers a lot of ground, and he covers it concisely and clearly. Unholy Alliance is richly informative without ever being boring or plodding.

This book is so illuminating that I simply cannot do justice to it here. I love people who reason so clearly that they help me get my own reasoning clear. Horowitz is just that type of person! In the terrain of mindless clichés (no-blood-for-oil, etc.), he is a breath of real fresh air."
$22.36
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WGRMWB35L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg
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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left -by David Horowitz
Not all dissent is equal, and Americans whose actions are calculated to give aide and comfort to the butchers who murdered 3,000 innocent people on September 11, 2001 are not patriotic at all... they are, in fact, quite the opposite.

$18.00 from David Horowitz's website, FrontPageMag.com:
(click on 'Bookstore' near the top of the page)
http://frontpagemag.com/

[NELSON111]

I don't believe he's a muslim. I don't believe he's a Christian. I believe he's a secular humanist who was raised as a muslim and who claimed Christianity out of political convenience.

In my opinion, his sitting in Church every Sunday is NO DIFFERENT than many people who sit in Church every Sunday here in the Bible Belt. They are there for Fire Insurance, their Politics or their Business. They live like the devil during the week. They filled the churches in the 50's...and if they didn't think it would make them look bad in the community for not showing up...they would have not been there.

[Crucial]

It’s not a huge leap. Communists hate Christianity.

[ETL]

his sitting in Church every Sunday is NO DIFFERENT than many people who sit in Church every Sunday here in the Bible Belt. They are there for Fire Insurance, their Politics or their Business.

Very big difference. Obama's "church" advocated communist "Black Liberation Theology" and Revolution. It's an entirely bogus 'religious' movement concocted by communists decades ago. It was no accident that he wound up there. Read up on it. The links above are a good starting point.

[ETL]

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Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology."

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml
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“Although it [The New Black Panther Party] says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and “revolution” as the solution, the new party does not draw its influences from Marxism or Maoism as the original party did. Instead, in a carefully-worded, roundabout form of ethnic nationalism,[8] they say that Marx based his ideology and teachings on indigenous African cultures, and that the NBPP therefore need not look to Marxism or Maoism as a basis for their program, but can look to ideologies that stem directly from those African origins.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party#Philosophy.2C_ideology.2C_and_criticism
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Shock Photos: Candidate Obama Appeared And Marched With New Black Panther Party in 2007:
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2011/10/03/shock-photos-barack-obama-with-new-black-panther-party-on-campaign-trail-in-2007/

[bmwcyle]

Only an idiot would think that Obama was a Christian.

[ETL]

"If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."--Louis Farrakhan
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

"Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."--Louis Farrakhan
Source: FinalCall.com
(this is Farrakhan's own "Nation Of Islam" website)
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4328.shtml

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The so-called "Nation of Islam" is a "Black Liberation" communist front movement like Wright's phony church. Farrakhan doesn't sincerely believe in "Allah". His role models are people (monsters) like Castro and Mao. He describes both Obama and Mao as "transformers".

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998:
"There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"

Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says
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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/
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Unity generates power to change reality
By the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan

"The time has never been more ripe for a strategic relationship between the Black, Brown, Native American and the poor of this nation and the world."

"We need a Ministry of Defense. Our young men are born soldiers, but they are in the wrong war. They are fighting a war in the streets of America against each other, or they are fighting an unjust war overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need to bring our boys home and put them into the Ministry of Defense, so we can defend our communities, rather than destroy our communities.

We need a Ministry of Art and Culture. We applaud the hip hop community, the leaders of young people all over the world, but I want the young generation of artists to know there is a bigger purpose for art and culture than popping our fingers and shaking our backsides.

Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform. Many of them were victims of opium, drugs and prostitution, like we are. But Mao Tse Tung went to the cultural community and they accepted his idea. Then, through song, dance, poetry, drama, documentaries, movies and books, the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people. China became a world power on the base of culture and the artistic community. If we had a Ministry of Art and Culture in every city, [we'd] create this movement [in the U.S.], we could say to our young people, “What is the idea of the Time and are you reflecting that idea in your songs, dance and music?

We need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce. Do you think that a Millions More Movement should not be involved in the development of Africa, the Caribbean and Central America? ... we need a Ministry of Trade and Commerce that can link the struggle here with Africa and the Caribbean, Central and South America.

Source: FinalCall.com
This is Farrakhan's own "Nation Of Islam" website
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4328.shtml
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Farrakhan hails Obama as 'hope of entire world'

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

Video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him (Farrakhan) call Obama "The Messiah" And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=farrakhan+messiah+obama&aq=0&oq=Farrakhan+messiah
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Farrakhan:

"If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."

"Mao Tse Tung, throughout his long march to conquer China, had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."

[grundle]

Of course Obama is a Christian - he spent 20 years attending the Christian church of Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

[NELSON111]

No. There is NO difference. Not in the eyes of God. They will end up in the same place. That is the perspective from which I am looking.

[pallis]

If he can be Muslim, gay, a liar, a thief, a fraud, an antichrist, hate mongering, race baiting, murderer, and still be a Christian, contrary to what Christ said about following him, then yeah, once saved, always saved, while God is mocked, and sin abounds. It’s no wonder that people have doubts about Obama’s Christianity, especially since he came to it by way of Wright’s liberation theology.

[madison10]

Again Obama lets the truth slip out when he’s off the teleprompter or a script.

[married21]

Thank you. That’s the best quick description of Obama’s religion I have come across. He believes in Black Liberation Theology.

[holden]

I suppose we are forced to attribute the very continuing existence of those 18-1/2 seconds of truth (think Mary Lincoln) to the fact the Georgie didn't know his way around digital editing software, or have a closer relationship with the video editor. Surely Steppenalloverus understood the potential damage after it "slipped" out. Perhaps it was already the third take and Georgie figured, rather than call further attention to it, as guy-in-charge he'd just nonchalantly dispose of it later, but then was distracted by a (well-timed?) Clinton request to get on the kneepads.

HF

[MeganC]

Obama is not a Christian and I can prove it:

If Obama were a Christian then liberals would hate him.

They don’t so he’s clearly not a Christian.

[cherokee1]

“no fatwa “——that’s exactly right and so long as he claims Hussein senior, who was Muslim, is his father then he is Muslim by definition as defined in the Koran. Then he noted in his fake autobiography book that if trouble arose he would stand with the Muslims. He never went to anything that could remotely be called a Christian school but he did, by most accounts, go to a school teaching Islam. For lack of a renouncement, he’s still a muslim.