Posted on 07/21/2012 10:54:09 PM PDT by kristinn
Sources tell FOX31 Denver reporter Justin Joseph that a second man is now a person-of-interest in the Aurora theater shooting investigation. We are not disclosing his identity because he has not been charged.
Twelve people were killed and 58 injured early Friday when James Egan Holmes allegedly opened fire inside the crowded theater.
Neighbors of the person of interest say for the past two days there have been SWAT team and police cars in their alley and unmarked cars in street.
“He’s been there about a year,” said one neighbor.
Agents showed up again this morning.
“I woke up this morning with cops still here trying to look inside his home. At 5:00 a.m. cops showed-up and asked me about (him).”
Sources tell Justin Joseph someone made a call from the person of interest’s phone threatening violence if James Egan Holmes was not released from jail. That call prompted police to issue an alert to find and detain him.
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1. How would someone know military would attend? Sheer location. Suggest looking at the military killed for indicators.
2. What about the importance of an FBI letter? I refer you to the letter of August 6th, 2001, and its impact on electronic traffic and security.
3. And the license plate? It may be, as you’ve suggested, something personal or irrelevant, but I stand by my beliefs.
As for 9/11 and its UN-importance, please consider the following bits of information as a preface to suggesting further reading. My apologies ahead of time, if you are already familiar with all of this.
The date, 9/11, is quite important in Islamic history: Jan Sobieski would beg to differ, as would I. Unimportant to the terrorists? You really want to go there? http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/09/other-september-11th.html
The Ottoman Turks almost took Europe twice, laying siege to and fighting at the gates of Vienna. Suleiman the Magnificent led the 1st attempt, 1529, not long after the fall of Constantinople in 1453. Of course, also playing into the defeat of the Turks the first time was another hero of Christendom, Vlad Tepes. http://www.donlinke.com/drakula/vlad.htm
It was the Battle of Lepanto, 1571, http://traditioninaction.org/History/A_001_Lepanto.html, followed by the unsuccessful siege of Vienna, by Kara Mustafa, which almost succeeded, had it not been for Jan III Sobieski, in opening the rest of Europe to Muslim conquest. Had both the naval battle succeeded and had Vienna fallen, this typing would not be taking place and the Western world would not have existed as it has. That was the high point of Islamic conquest—up until now.
With the establishment of the organization, 1928, after the fall of Ottoman Turkey and the rise of Ataturk, at the end of World War I, the Khilafa movement reorganized, first in Turkey, but moving quickly to the UK and now, to Hizb ut-Tahrir, the Party of Justice and Freedom, and the Muslim Brotherhood—the Ikhwan, http://www.ikhwanweb.com
Dates are key, and we are nearly overrun. http://sperryfiles.com/
Then again, the Aurora, Colorado, case is now sealed, and apparently was on July 20th. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/Re2909404/posts. You’ll not find John Doe #2, the Korean or anything else from anyone or anything that will not be sanctioned and bleached for prints on this case from now on.
I stand by what I stated way upthread.
Last link in last post didn’t post correctly: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2909404/posts
So. You can go just about anywhere in this country and find any number of active military personnel and active reservists. I was in a Sheetz store just the other day and there were three guys in fatigues, military reservists and there is no military base nearby for many miles. If Holmes wanted to specifically target those in the military, he could have chosen any number of much better targets than that particular movie theater. If his goal was to kill members of the military, then tell me why he shot a 6 year old girl to death?
2. What about the importance of an FBI letter? I refer you to the letter of August 6th, 2001, and its impact on electronic traffic and security.
M’kay. I’m not sure what your point is here or how this relates to the Aurora shooting but ….OK…
3. And the license plate? It may be, as you’ve suggested, something personal or irrelevant, but I stand by my beliefs.
So you are conceding it may be relevant but may also be irrelevant but with that even being such, that won’t change your mind because your mind is already made up. Again if you are going to look to numerology and symbolism in a license plate, then I could just as well submit that Holmes was a Christian Right Wing Radical because “COR 911” correlates to a Bible verse.
The rest of your post is mind boggling. 9-11 is a date that some things that are relevant to radical Islamists that may have meaning and symbolism to them (and BTW – you previously said that the symbolism of 9-11 had to do with the emergency number – but I digress as you have now changed your mind, once again.)
You can look to any date on the calendar and find some significance in that date, the events, births or deaths if you want:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_20
Again, for those of you from Rio Linda, there is nothing so far that indicates that Holmes was an Islamic terrorist or part of some vast left or right wing conspiracy. Everything we know so far indicates he was a deeply disturbed very sick individual acting alone; someone under delusions of grandeur who thought that acting out his fantasy of being the Joker during the midnight premiere of the latest Batman movie would fulfill his fantasy.
You stand by what you said upthread because contrary to any evidence, that’s what you want to believe. You are perhaps dangerously close to being more like Holmes or a DU’er or contributor to the Daily KOS than a rational, thoughtful and intelligent conservative.
Did you see this?
Just saw this elsewhere, don’t know if it’s been posted on FR; not enough hours in the day for me to read everything about this craziness. It’s a news thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU
Corbin Dates was in the Aurora Colorado theater and describes a man sitting in front of him. Then the man gets a call on his cellphone and goes to the back exit door. He then props the door open and Corbin describes that this man seems to be motioning to someone outside.
My original comment was a response to this comment:
“He must have converted recently.
The media probably wants to blame a white guy so they give out his birth name.
The other option is that the police originally were chasing a muslim who may have been the actual shooter. Holmes was probably the scape goat, a distraction, that’s why he gave up so easily.”
I believe this. The license plate is 119 ROC....as in COR 911. The date was 7/20. The event was the start of Ramadan.
Your original comment was this:
“First of all, if it was a Muslim terrorist, he mostly likely would have not been silent during the attack; he would have been yelling “Allah Akbar” and “Death to the Infidels”, would have blown himself as a martyr, his terrorist cell would be been claiming credit for it by now.
As far as the license plate; that’s not a vanity plate. Some years ago I had a license plate that started with WWF. People used to ask me if that was because I liked the World Wrestling Federation or the World Wildlife Fund. I know have a license plate that contains the numbers 116 but you know if you look at it upside down it says …….911….cue the scary music…. oooo…..I must be a muzzie.”
The last 10 words are insulting and meant to ridicule, given that I was remarking on a license plate that does have numbers which may be relevant.
Yet, the original story of the Aurora shooting that included the search for one Mohammad Alam, later, now has changed to a Korean name. Because we are not learning the facts of what actually occurred and the case records is now sealed, we will not know, and Holmes will be the official lone wolf case expected.
You questioned the reason for looking at authentication, then dismissed the proofs, themselves directly from the FBI, as of little value. The FBI memo of May of this year, specifically on warning of attacks on theaters, harken back to the memo warning of terror attacks, a memo from August of 2001.
Then again, you dismissed the reference to dates as meaningless to terrorists, which is patently absurd on its face, so I drafted a brief response specifically in regard to dates, numbers and their importance.
You are equivocating and may know it, bringing up the question, then, when presented with a response, dismissing it, even though the answers were in the responses..
I began responding, when in fact, you had originally wished to attack and infer that my thoughts are not worth your trouble. Don’t bother yourself again.
On the other hand, I do not attack FReepers.
Hiyas.
“He then props the door open and Corbin describes that this man seems to be motioning to someone outside.”
What? No. Hadn’t seen it. Thanks.
It’s been long enough since I have been to a movie that I don’t remember whether there are even handles on the outsides of the doors, being emergency doors and all. I don’t even know whether they can be propped open or not, as emergency doors, they shouldn’t be, or how a person could reopen one without help. Then again, I never heard whether the guy came out the same door he came in or not, or, if the guy was in the lobby, and so forth.
On the other hand, I do not attack FReepers.
Take a big deep breath. I’m not “attacking you” or going out of my way to insult you. I’m only trying to have a reasoned and rational discussion with you. I’m only trying to point out that some of your positions lack reason and are sorely absent of any of the facts at hand. You seem intent to holding on to preconceived notions and make connections to some sort of vast conspiracy that is not supported by the evidence known so far. I’m only trying to point out to you that trying to connect Holmes and his deranged actions with Islam or the OWS groups for that matter; are really no different from the very loose and conspiracy minded folks on the left who are just as convinced that Holmes is a right wing Christian NRA loving gun nut case.
Saying that his random, non-vanity license plate number holds some sort of meaning and significance and connection to the Koran, is just as silly as something someone from the Daily Kos might say to claim that COR 911 is an reference to the Bible. Again I point out I’ve gotten some license plate letters and numbers, randomly assigned to me that might lead others to think I “chose” those letters because I’m a Wrestling fan or a member of the World Wild Fund, when in fact, I just like any other citizen, went to the DMV and got the random combination of letters and numbers on my license plate that they game me. Trying to say that his Colorado license plate number of 119 ROC spelled backward means, ROC 911 (and I’m not sure what ROC is supposed to mean, you would think that if it was supposed to be from the Koran as you seem to suggest, it should read KOR 911 not COR 911) but as you’ve already connected all the dots and made up your mind, rationality probably doesn’t matter much to you.
The youtube is from a TV news report.
I haven’t been to a movie theater since about 2002, and that was a very rare occurance. So I have no idea about movie theater exit doors myself.
I may have missed it, but there has not been an explanation of how the killer got a phone call in the theater, which gave him a "logical excuse" to exit the theater and return fully armed.
Who called?
Whatever happened to “Mohammed Alam”?
we buy our tickets online with fandango, and print them ourselves. then you don’t wait in line, you just hand to the guy who tells you which theater. now, a midnight showing on opening day? there might still be a line but theoretically you have you ticket you go on in and sit through all the blather before the previews.
They have probably changed the wording since I read it.
I just use “there” for all three. Easy to spell, no apostrophes, usually anyone but a complete dolt can figure out what I’m saying. You?
Luckily, down here in the South they all sound exactly the same. Its kinda like “thy air”. Just say it slow , even stretch it out a bit. Try it - its easy.
Sorry - jes cudn;t hep m’sef. Nite! ;-)
The opening that we went to, everyone had purchased tickets on-line or ahead, somehow, and the announced theater time was for the first theater, and the lines started filling up several hours ahead, the tickets were not for any specific theater, they just started filling them on a first come basis. This was one of those mega theaters, I don’t even know how many screenings they were doing, but it was a lot more than four or five. The theater was actually in Canada. We don’t have any of those mega theaters around here.
I guess it’s up to the theater. I pay a couple bucks extra for the online ticket but it’s very convenient (and the ticket actually says which theater- the one we go to has 18) and we always go Sunday afternoon because it’s cheaper at that location ($6). You’ll go broke on popcorn and drinks though....
When we left the theater, I noticed there was a cop in the hall outside the door.
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