Posted on 07/20/2012 12:11:33 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
America may be facing a constitutional crisis. Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz., has made a startling declaration: President Obama’s birth certificate is fraudulent. If true — and I stress if — then this scandal dwarfs Watergate. In fact, it would be the greatest political scandal in U.S. history.
Recently, Sheriff Arpaio held a news conference. He said that his team of independent investigators — composed of former law enforcement officials and reporters — have for months meticulously examined the computer-generated birth certificate that Mr. Obama revealed to the public in April 2011. Their stunning conclusion: The document is a forgery. His chief investigator, Mike Zullo, says that the document is full of errors and omissions.
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Sheriff Arpaio’s findings threaten to plunge America into an unprecedented crisis. For if — and again, I emphasize if — he is correct, then Mr. Obama has perpetrated the most elaborate hoax in U.S. history. A fraudulent birth certificate would mean that Mr. Obama is ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief. His presidency would therefore be legally and constitutionally illegitimate.
The consequences would shake the country to its very foundations. It would mean that he should be immediately removed from office — impeached. Moreover, every law and executive order passed under his administration — Obamacare, the economic stimulus, the Dodd-Frank financial reform, the government takeover of General Motors and Chrysler, the granting of amnesty to nearly one million illegal immigrants, the National Defense Reauthorization Act, the drone assassination list — would be null and void. The logic is inexorable: Should the president’s legal authority be deemed invalid, then everything resulting from it is also baseless. The Obama presidency would be overturned. Mr. Obama himself would be facing criminal charges — and possible jail time — for committing fraud.
(Excerpt) Read more at times247.com ...
-——if Nancy Pelosi did not sign her name confirming Obama’s eligibility-——
She did not do that. She signed her name to a letter as chair of the Democrat convention stating that Obama was the certified nominee of the convention. It said nothing about eligibility.
I have a copy of the letter.
“November we either have the end of Obama’s presidency or the end of the republic.”
Hardly, James. We are in the first act of a long play called CW II.
Act I is splitting up and choosing sides.
Act II will be name calling, formal invectives and assorted accusations.
Act III is various skirmishes across the land.
In Act IV, armies are mustered, orders are given and the shooting starts.
We are in the same flight path taken in the run-up to the first Civil War, and we’re still fighting the same democrats who want to impose slavery.
Doesn’t matter what the good sheriff has on O’bummer....NOTHING will be done about it. That’s right, “NOTHING”. The only person who really cares is Apario and who is backing him? (silence........................)
Doesn’t matter what the good sheriff has on O’bummer....NOTHING will be done about it. That’s right, “NOTHING”. The only person who really cares is Apario and who is backing him? (silence........................)
No, you misunderstand. Obama is NOT Constitutionally legitimate, therefore he could technically be arrested as a fraud or impostor. An illegitimate pretender has no legitimate reason to enjoy a Constitutional protocol he does not qualify for. That being said, I don’t expect the Secret Service or Washington establishment to allow Obama to be arrested, but from a Constitutional standpoint, there’s no reason he cannot be.
O.K. I get the scenario. If a POTUSA were to openly or by preponderance of evidence known to shoot, knife or by whatever means commit murder, POTUSA would have to be impeached and removed from office before being tried before a jury of his/her peers for the crime of murder. This seems to be a convoluted procedure for justice and not how the ‘common’ person would be treated. I don’t believe a POTUSA with the public and political support of a person as for Obama would ever be impeached and removed from office for whatever crime and as such is shielded from equal justice. The King is almighty.
Never happen. I am unsure why people get themselves so excited about this. There is NO WAY anything will happen.
Kuhner claims that every law and executive order signed by Obama would be null and void.
Too bad because we could have gotten rid of Nixon’s crap like the EPA and other departments he began...Department of Education...UGH! I kinda wish we could get rid of laws and executive orders that the President signed once he gets kick to the curb like Nixon.
You’re describing a series by a government employee (no surprise there).
The “Obama birth certificate” is a forgery, fabricated out of whole cloth on a computer.
There’s a difference.
“But Forgery is a high crime...”
Maybe, maybe not as specifically defined by whatever set of laws specifically defines “high crimes”. I suspect not as it is generally classified as a misdemeanor in check forgery and document forgery, but I do not know for sure. (IANAL) It (the classification as to misdemeanor or felony) may have to do with the amount of money involved in the fraud.
But my main point is that even if it is a high crime, it is only an impeachable offense if one can prove that it was 0bama himself who either performed the graphic manipulation of the BC or uploaded it to the WH website, possibly both. See what I mean? If 0bama manipulated the image (unlikely) or uploaded it himself (unlikely) EVEN THEN, he was already president at the time the document was offered, thus he can’t be said to have proffered the fake BC in order to promulgate a fraud, though one could say he (or his directee) proffered the doc to *continue* a fraud. But as I said, he himself didn’t do this; most likley, a staffer did so. And now one would have to prove that he, 0bama, specifically directed the staffer(s) to create and upload the doc. You think the directions to do so exist in some documentable, obtainable-on-subpena format? IMO the best one could hope for in the event this was prosecuted (as a crime) would be the firing of “an overenthusiastic staff member”...like the kind of devotee(s) who produced the Julia thingy.
If you start thinking like a weasel, there are a dozen ways to separate the act of presenting the BC from the intention to defraud. And EVEN THEN, one would have to prove damages from having been duped by the BC, and that’s an impossible equivocal morass.
The law does not apply itself. There’s no mysterious force of righteousness or legality seeking to impose conformance with the law. Never mind the biases and partisanships on either side which could never be overcome to gather the prosecutorial force and will to pursue such a case. If you want to prove to me that gravity exists and makes stuff fall “down”, I can make it very, very hard for you by refusing to accept your definition of “down”, of “mass”, of “fall”.
The Tea Party needs to work over time to get McCain and Boehner out of office.
Get real. McCain was just reelected and the Tea Party supported him. Boehner is in a gerrymandered district so he will be in position until he does not want it anymore.
Well then, I guess we just go home and let these bastards have control of the country and hope and pray for someone better to come along. Or, we could get off our ass and fight.
Do a search on DR Edwin Vieiro His comments before BO was sworn into office says exactly what the article states. ALL null and void. After you’ve looked at his credentials and comments you might want to rethink your own.
SHERIFF JOE CALLS ON CONGRESS TO INVESTIGATE OBAMA
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/sheriff-joe-calls-on-congress-to-investigate-obama/?cat_orig=politics
Stipulating.... Even so, there is no immunity from prosecution for fraud and forgery. These acts where not performed in pursuance of official duties - there is no immunity.
Even it the politicians don't see this as "high crime" or "mis demeanor" and fail to impeach, it won't matter. It will be impossible for him to perform the duties of office while he is in a prison cell.
” - - - At best, Mr. Obama is a shameless liar. At worst, he is a foreign usurper.
Jeffrey T. Kuhner is a columnist at The Washington Times and president of the Edmund Burke Institute.”
Well, well, well. A Mainstream Media guy who finally has the guts to challenge the creepy-commie-Kenyan Obama.
Read more: http://times247.com/articles/82kuhner-arpaio-probe-could-be-bigger-than-watergate6#ixzz21BmjLjgT
Where does this link from 2011 come into the whole situation?
http://www.wnd.com/2011/01/254401/
Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
Published: 01/24/2011 at 8:48 PM
” - - - As late as 2009, the Kenyan government sought to build an official monument commemorating the site of Mr. Obama’s birth (until the State Department ordered the project be shuttered).”
Isn’t 2009 also the year that Secretary of Statements Hilly found out the Brits has a copy of Obama’s Kenyan BC in their files?
The Brits keep records of everything - - - .
Read more: http://times247.com/articles/82kuhner-arpaio-probe-could-be-bigger-than-watergate6#ixzz21BpoBx00
Murder (not killing - as in self defense) is not anything that can be done in pursuance of the duties of office. Acts done in the pursuance of official duties may have immunity, these are official acts. There is no immunity for other acts.
Whether impeached or not would be moot, he would be prosecuted for murder.
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