Posted on 07/17/2012 10:27:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It was Rep. Paul Ryan's wife, Janna, who first saw --- via Twitter --- President Obama’s recent comments about American entrepreneurs, that "if youve got a business you didnt build that. Somebody else made that happen."
And the Wisconsin Republican --- thought to be on Mitt Romney's running-mate short list --- couldn't believe it. He thought someone must have been putting words in the presidents mouth.
But Obama said it all. And Ryan absolutely tore into the president in a chat I had with him earlier today. Among the highlights:
- "The idea that these entrepreneurs owe all their success to some government bureaucrat or some centralized planner just defies reality."
- "Every now and then, President Obama pierces the veil. Hes usually pretty coy about his ideology, but he lets the veil slip from time to time."
– “We believe in free communities and this is a statist attack on free communities.”
– “Hes deluded himself into thinking that his so-called enemies are these crazy individualists who believe in some dog-eat-dog society when what he’s really doing is basically attacking people like entrepreneurs and stacking up a list of scapegoats to blame for his failures.”
– “As all of his big government spending programs fail to restore jobs and growth, he seems to be retreating into a statist vision of government direction and control of a free society that looks backward to the failed ideologies of the 20th century.”
– “Those of us who are conservative believe in government, we just believe government has limits. We want government to do what it does well and respect its limits so civil society and families can flourish on their own and do well and achieve their potential.”
– “He wants to be as transformational as Reagan by undoing the entire Reagan revolution.”
Now here are some longer excerpts:
Every now and then, he pierces the veil. Hes usually pretty coy about his ideology, but he lets the veil slip from time to time. His straw man argument is this ridiculous caricature where he’s trying to say if you want any security in life, you stick with me. If you go with these Republicans, they’re going to feed you to the wolves because they believe in some Hobbesian state of nature, and its one or the other which is complete bunk, absolutely ridiculous. But it seems to be the only way he thinks he can make his case. Hes deluded himself into thinking that his so-called enemies are these crazy individualists who believe in some dog-eat-dog society when what he’s really doing is basically attacking people like entrepreneurs and stacking up a list of scapegoats to blame for his failures.
His comments seem to derive from a naive vision of a government-centered society and a government-directed economy. It stems from an idea that the nucleus of society and the economy is government not the people. It is antithetical to the American idea. We believe in free communities, and this is a statist attack on free communities. As all of his big government spending programs fail to restore jobs and growth, he seems to be retreating into a statist vision of government direction and control of a free society that looks backward to the failed ideologies of the 20th century.
This is not a Bill Clinton Democrat. Hes got this very government-centric, old 20th century collectivist philosophy which negates the American experiment which is people living in communities, supporting one another, having government stick to its limits so it can do its job really well … Those of us who are conservative believe in government, we just believe government has limits. We want government to do what it does well and respect its limits so civil society and families can flourish on their own and do well and achieve their potential.
How does building roads and bridge justify Obamacare? If you like the GI Bill therefore we must go along with socialized medicine. Its a strange leap that he takes. … To me it’s the laziest form of a debate to affix views to your opponent that they do not have so you can demonize them and defeat them and win the debate by default
I think he believes America was on the right path until Reagan came along, and Reagan got us going in the wrong direction. And and he wants to be as transformational as Reagan by undoing the entire Reagan revolution. … I think he sees himself as bringing about this wave of progressivism, and the only thing stopping him are these meddling conservatives who believe in these founding principles so he has to caricature them in the ugliest light possible to win the argument.
I could be less happy about a VP pick. Ryan I would like actually.
The full quote, and it’s context, say something quite different. I hope the Pubbies aren’t hanging their hopes on clipping portions of quotes out of context.
What is it we’re missing, Wolfie? How is what Obama said different that what Eliz Warren said in all her glory?
I think it was wasserman-schultz that made it an issue that taxes built the roads, regulated the industry, controlled commerce etc. and we were supposed to be grateful for that.
The leftists are always bragging about the &%(# roads (at city, state, fed levels). You should see what the leftist-controlled People’s Republic of Tucson looks like. ALL but the newest streets are cracked and full of potholes. You practically need a tank to drive here, and that’s not even during monsoon season.
So typical of them.
Actually, the Party of Bush has done its own share of damage to the Reagan revolution.
The statement is entirely consistent with the Obama/DNC collectivist belief system. This is their justification for property seizing policies, namely: Since you did not earn it you have no right to keep it.
Sadly there a lot of American who agree with this - at least in theory and as far as the rich go. What they don't understand is that in practice collectivism eventually extends down to the guy who owns an old trailer on a 1/4 acre of wasteland.
Paul Ryan is doing exactly what needs to be done in this campaign. Romney could definitely be tougher than he has so far (never ask for an apology, just refute the lie) but he can’t wallow in the mud with Obama and retain a presidential persona. However, guys like Ryan can. He called out Obama in very specific ways that will resonate with those who care to listen. One hopes this kind of deconstructing of Obama’s inane comments will be strong enough to garner media attention but more likely, they’ll try to bury it. We’ll see.
-One inside joke I have with my wife is that you can tell every city run by dims: The gas prices are too high, the streets are all torn up and there is an over representation of illegal aliens.
RE: I think it was wasserman-schultz that made it an issue that taxes built the roads, regulated the industry, controlled commerce etc. and we were supposed to be grateful for that.
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Actually it is the fake Native Indian American, Elizabeth Warren, who wants to be the next Senator of MA, who first brought it up. Obama is just channeling her:
SEE HERE: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/07/obama-is-channeling-elizabeth-warren.html
Usually when he wanders away from his teleprompter ...
Paul Ryan for VP...and eventually the President. His intellect is much admired....and his looks please me as well!
I’ve had a crush on him for awhile now.
Imagine a debate between Paul Ryan and Joe Biden.
HA!
Let’s dump Romney and get Ryan.
Good point.
Look at Detroit, or my home, the Peoples Republic of Cleveland. Look at any Dem-run major city.
The infrastructure is crumbling around them after decades of neglect. Coincidentally, the decades Demoncrats controlled the cities.
I wish Ryan had run for President. It would have made life as a conservative so much easier.
There is no context here, it is pure Marxist anti-American philappghy. The business owner is not smart, the business owner does not work hard. He is lucky, and he does it on the backs of others.
That’s the context.
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