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Rev. James V. Schall, S.J., teaches political science at Georgetown University. His latest book, The Mind That Is Catholic, is published by Catholic University of America Press.
1 posted on 07/14/2012 4:23:37 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

I am ready for the call.


2 posted on 07/14/2012 4:29:33 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Fiat voluntas tua)
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To: iowamark

bump


3 posted on 07/14/2012 4:36:02 AM PDT by VTenigma
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To: iowamark
Worth posting again

Constitutional rule derives from a people who understand the nature and demands of the virtues and their relation to our final end. It is aware of an order transcendent to politics. Arbitrary rule arises when a leader, seeing that the people have no real order of soul, sees himself able to impose whatever form of rule that he thinks good for the people. Unless they acquiesce in this rule and its decrees, they are no longer citizens, whatever a written Constitution might say.

Bump...

5 posted on 07/14/2012 4:38:41 AM PDT by Popman (When you elect a clown: expect a circus...)
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To: iowamark

Americans... this is your future.

6 posted on 07/14/2012 4:39:14 AM PDT by Blado (When the government controls your healthcare it owns your body and you are a slave.)
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To: iowamark

Obama isn’t “leader” enough to be mentioned in the same sentence as Hitler or Napoleon and yet here we are...


7 posted on 07/14/2012 4:42:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (A Dalmation was spotted wagging its tail.)
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A Jesuit who apparently hasn’t lost his mind and been seduced by the prince of darkness.


9 posted on 07/14/2012 4:44:56 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: iowamark
“The great and chief end, therefore, of men uniting into commonwealths, and putting themselves under government, is the preservation of their property; to which in the state of Nature there are many things wanting.”

“Men, therefore, in society having property, they have such right to the goods which by the law of the community are theirs, that nobody hath a right to take their substance or any part of it from them, without their own consent …”

(John Locke, The Second Treatise of Government, chapter 11, paragraph 138.)

11 posted on 07/14/2012 4:47:09 AM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: iowamark

“We have met the enemy and he is us”

Pogo Possum - Okefenoffee Swamp - many years ago


18 posted on 07/14/2012 5:12:19 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: iowamark
The people no longer had sufficient interior virtues and standards whereby they themselves could form judgments about what was right and wrong. That function was subsumed into dependence and confidence in the emperor’s force of personality and external mission.

Readers of Plato and Aristotle know their recurring thesis: a tyrant arises out of a democracy when the citizens have little or no inner principle of order other than what they will for themselves.

I'm convinced this is what has happened to our nation. This undoing of our love of freedom has taken decades to accomplish and much of it has been subtle and seemingly innocent. With a tidal wave there is drama and shock- with erosion there is slow and steady change. But look at the results- they are the same.

20 posted on 07/14/2012 5:17:27 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: iowamark
Bastiat:

“This question of legal plunder must be settled once and for all, and there are only three ways to settle it:"

"1. The few plunder the many. 2. Everybody plunders everybody. 3. Nobody plunders anybody.”

We are certainly at #2. When the plunder runs out, and it soon will, I doubt the public will return to Founding era virtue. A corrupted people will need totalitarian government, being suitable for no other.

21 posted on 07/14/2012 5:21:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie (I want my America back.)
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To: iowamark

What’s most remarkable about this article is that it was written by a Jesuit who serves on the faculty at Georgetown University. When you start to see this sort of thing from “Catholics” who had spent most of the last 60 years turning from God and getting very comfortable with Mammon, you know something is up.


24 posted on 07/14/2012 5:35:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: iowamark
The term “unconstitutional” is meaningless.

I want to see our republican leaders take this part and throw him out by impeachment. I know, I am dreaming.

25 posted on 07/14/2012 5:40:43 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: iowamark
The most contentious -- and paradigm-blasting -- idea in the Declaration is that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. Citizen rights do NOT derive from the government down, but vice versa.

Jefferson's thesis -- upon which he expounds at length -- is that the Crown had violated the precepts of Lockeian social contract, that the obligations of the government to its citizens had been ignored, while the obligations of the citizenry were being enforced at gunpoint. To Locke and Jefferson, that meant the social contract was dissolved; no contract can be unilateral.

We are at that same point (and beyond) today. Our government is NOT "just." It does NOT derive its powers from the consent of the governed; how could Obamacare have passed if it did, when a vast majority of citizens opposed it? And it is not protecting the rights of its citizens; it is merely perpetuating itself and its own elitist vision. Therefore, the social contract, if not dissolved, is certainly eroded, and we find ourselves in much the same position the Founding Fathers did in the days of tri-corn hats.

That is the lesson we've forgotten. That is the lesson we must relearn if America is to once again be free.

32 posted on 07/14/2012 7:39:19 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: iowamark; All
"Constitutional rule derives from a people who understand the nature and demands of the virtues and their relation to our final end. It is aware of an order transcendent to politics. Arbitrary rule arises when a leader, seeing that the people have no real order of soul, sees himself able to impose whatever form of rule that he thinks good for the people. Unless they acquiesce in this rule and its decrees, they are no longer citizens, whatever a written Constitution might say."

What a powerfully insightful statement! Others, including Supreme Court Justices have stated it clearly before; yet, for generations, we have failed, as a people, to study the ideas essential to our liberty which were carefully laid out in our Declaration of Independence and the writings of the Founders and Framers of our Constitution. Instead, we allowed so-called "progressives" to work, like termites, gradually to censor those ideas from our textbooks and our public discourse.


The U. S. Constitution's Precious Cargo*

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court even can do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand

The Constitution's words are only the vehicles which carry great ideas across the centuries. The precious cargo must be defined, protected, and treasured by "We, the People" in order for its benefits to accrue to each generation. Take the word, "liberty". What message does this semantic vehicle bring?

Abe Lincoln: "We all declare for liberty, but

in using the same word we do not mean the same thing...."

"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator,

While the wolf denounces him for the same act...."

"Plainly," said Lincoln, "the sheep and the wolf are not agreed

upon a definition of liberty."

To some, he said, "liberty" means: that each individual in the society may do as he sees fit with himself and the earnings from his labors. To others, "liberty" means: that some persons may do as they see fit (or arbitrarily determine to be best) with other persons' earnings. Lincoln wisely observed that each respective view can be called by the other party by two "different and incompatible" names: "liberty" (unbridled license) and "tyranny" (power abused).

Down through the centuries since 1787, America's constitutional vehicle has traveled, proclaiming right up front that its primary purpose is to "secure the Blessings of Liberty." This is not just any old vehicle. This is the Constitution of the United States of America! Its makers left volumes of writings and definitions of the cargo of priceless treasure its words carry. Its intent to secure a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defense, and promote the general Welfare (common good) and "secure the Blessings of Liberty" relies on a clear understanding of, and strict adherence to, its underlying philosophy that each individual possesses Creator-endowed rights, as well as its structural provisions for protecting them from abuses of power by those they elect to positions of power in public office.

"Liberty"--the word--can become "liberty"--the blessing--only to those who care enough to know the difference between "license" and "tyranny": to those who will never mistake the real treasure of liberty envisioned by America's Founders for its counterfeits--rampant, unbridled license among the citizenry or abuse of power by those to whom power is delegated. Both are equally fatal to true liberty.

* "Lessons In Liberty" Series by La Vaughn G. Lewis, Free Lance Writer and Co-Editor of "Our Ageless Constitution" & "Rediscovering the Ideas of Liberty"

36 posted on 07/14/2012 9:02:42 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: iowamark

BFL


37 posted on 07/14/2012 9:07:44 AM PDT by PoliticalArsonist
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One of the most important threads of this year...

I believe there are several FReepers capable of coming up with some very well worded “pariculars” to list the abuses of the government, and its representatives have imposed upon us over just the last 40-50 years...

But since we still have the mechanism to throw off these very representatives...It comes down to what is anyone prepared to do about it, and what are you prepared to sacrifice for it???

When we lose that ability to effect change every two years, then it might be time to throw off that government in a manner fitting and honorableto those whoactiually did to get this Union started...

When it ever comes time to go to guns, everyone loses, lets not forget that...


39 posted on 07/14/2012 2:22:29 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: iowamark
If the blood ever flows, it will be because fools rejected intelligence and learning in favor of war, and died for their ignorance and abandonment of the greatest mechanism for justice ever conceived by mankind - the US Constitution.

How Chief Justice Roberts Saved America

41 posted on 07/14/2012 6:19:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: iowamark
Last Sunday our pastor stood up and announced that he was joining a nation wide group of pastors who were ready to take a stand.

They're willing to challenge the IRS and the Power of the government, and ready to call out the evil that is now taking over our society. He's answering a call to rise up and speak the truth and he's willing to suffer if need be, to lose leadership of our church.

Then the most amazing thing happened: The entire congregation erupted in jubilant applause!

43 posted on 07/14/2012 10:21:37 PM PDT by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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To: iowamark

Fantastic article! Well spoken words that get down to the heart of the matter. A free man must have a free soul ordered by God.

Without a religious & God fearing people any hope for long term Constitutional Government may be in vain. Figuring out how to turn our population back to God is anther challenge I have yet to seriously contemplate. I’ve been so wrapped up in trying to solve the problem of restoring the structure of liberty I seem to overlook its foundation.

Of course there is the potential problem of the church collaborating with the State to instead of freeing souls to stand upon their own with God, enslaving them to an early institution.


50 posted on 07/16/2012 2:39:52 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: iowamark
In 2012, when we read the Declaration of Independence and its appeal to the judgment of mankind, it seems more addressed to our own government rather than to the British Crown.

Yes it does. Deus Vult!

61 posted on 07/22/2012 7:26:05 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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