Romney is NOT a devil, you just don't like him, because you disagree with him in everything.
The further we move from conservatism, the harder it will be to get back. If Obama continues in office, we move inexorably to the left. You may think Romney is exactly the same, but he is not. They may share some ideas on social issues, but on economics, they are worlds apart.
The social issues are important, and many of us hold them dear, but the vast majority of American voters will ignore them, if their main concern is finding a job to put food on their tables. Because of this, it's much more difficult to be elected by stressing the social issues as opposed to the fiscal ones. Romney will be much better for the economy, and their chances for work, than Obama will.
It stinks, but that's the reality we face in this election. Continually denigrating Romney will do nothing except turn voters who might have thought about voting for him off, and possibly even back to Obama. That won't help us to move toward conservatism in the long run.
“Continually denigrating Romney will do nothing except turn voters who might have thought about voting for him off, and possibly even back to Obama. That won’t help us to move toward conservatism in the long run.”
Good, I want to move persons away from Romney. Also, just because they don’t vote for Romney doesn’t mean they will vote for Obama. That is fuzzy logic on your part. Romney deserves denigration and every effort to stop him. HE SHOULD NOT BE THE NOMINEE. This isn’t “sour grapes”, it is the recognition that the GOP Establishment picked this bozo and foisted him on us.
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not...it is fact that Romney is evil. Romney has a history of being pro-abortion, pro-homosexual. and he IS a big government “Statist.” He is not conservative, and to pretend he is makes him evil. Plus, he is a major proponent of a psuedo-Christian cult that misdirects possibly millions to hell. The VERY ESSENCE of EVIL. So, don’t you dare say he IS NOT EVIL. Another thing about him is that he is an insidious form of evil (the worst kind), because he fools people into thinking he is not...people like yourself.
IF you really care about your country and turning it towards conservatism, you will forget about supporting Romney and work hard on the House and Senate. Vote third party so neighter Obama or Romney can claim a “mandate.”
“The social issues are important, and many of us hold them dear, but the vast majority of American voters will ignore them, if their main concern is finding a job to put food on their tables. Because of this, it’s much more difficult to be elected by stressing the social issues as opposed to the fiscal ones. Romney will be much better for the economy, and their chances for work, than Obama will.”
Well the polls I have been reading show that Romney isn’t seen as that much better on the economy. So, you can kiss that off. Look, and I say this gently...you have been in Mass too long and your perspective is warped by what you are surrounded with. Romney WAS NOT a good governor...not on social or fiscal matters. He wasn’t really a good businessman either. He was a vulture capitalist. Anything good that came out of Bain was in spite of Romney, not because of him. He just provided the capital.
To appeal across the spectrum and beat Obama, we conservatives must promote all three legs of conservatism:
Social/Moral, Fiscal, and National Defense. I ONLY consider the first most important because IF you get IT right, the others WILL fall into place.
On a final note regarding Romney. This is something Jim Robinson wrote today:
“If you are a pro-life, pro-family, pro-liberty, small government conservative you would see that he is most definitely as bad as Obama. What part of Romney’s godless liberal progessivism, abortionism, homosexualism, statism, gun grabbing, big government socialism is less evil than Obama’s?”
Dear lady....you are out of sync here. We conservatives are tired of having the GOPe push country club republicans on us. We are the rebelion. Our goal is higher than merely stopping Obama, we are about establishing conservatism. We will NEVER get this backing Romney. As just JR just said, what part of him is less evil than Obama? It is a rhetorical question....there is NO PART.
The social issues are important, and many of us hold them dear, but the vast majority of American voters will ignore them, if their main concern is finding a job to put food on their tables.
I could not disagree more. More Americans than you think do indeed care about social issues. Issues of morality aren’t just about “sex”, people without a moral compass also commit graft, bribery, and all manner of fiduciary corruption due to unbridled greed and not having any conscience. The very foundation of human civilization has to be morality. The only other option is might. If there is no general acceptance and support of personal morality, a country quickly devolves into worse than robber baronism, and that is what we are seeing now.
You ever heard “man does not live by bread alone”? This is not a sectarian belief, but the simple universal truth. A human with a full belly, a warm bed, clothes and a roof over his head is an animal if he has no morality.
Divorcing social conservatism from fiscal conservatism is not only not possible, but loses elections. Why do the social conservatives always have to compromise, back down, give up, and let the hedonist “money is the only important thing” Republicans have their way with us? Why can’t THEY compromise with US? THEY FREAKING LOSE ELECTIONS!!!
Romney is already so far from conservative positions the only thing left of him is 0bastard. You think he’s wildly different from 0bastard on financial issues? To me, Romney appears to be a corporatist guy who wants to make money even if it is shady - from what I’ve read, some of his investments or connections have had to do with aborted baby disposal, Merriot hotels which showed (or maybe still do) porn in the TVs in the hotel, and another thing that escapes my memory. His positions on conservative social issues are so liberal, and any positions he takes “now” that appear conserative, appear as so much pandering.
He is utterly loathesome and so much worse even than McCain that just thinking and writing this causes my gorge to rise.