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To: rogue yam; dirtboy; Jim Robinson; Finny; BlackElk; cripplecreek; DoughtyOne; EternalVigilance
Those who vociferously campaign against Romney on this site (and there are a number of such folks) want him to lose and are deliberately trying to help bring this about. If Romney loses Obama wins. Thus campaigning against Romney on this site supports Obama. It is a matter of simple logic.

But you seem to start from a false premise: That Romney is capable of winning. I would assert that like with McCain't, he doesn't stand a chance in hell to start with. And like all the fervor surrounding Palin, all the fervor now won't make a damn bit of difference... You really can put lipstick on a pig, but that doesn't mean we are gonna vote for him.

It seems that the Christian Right is to blame for McCain'ts failure - They didn't turn out for him, in spite of Palin. Perhaps one should wonder why the Christian Right could not be moved, and apply that scenario to this one - Because this is going to be the same thing repeated again.

And if the TEA parties work to elect this candidate, it is their doom - Because they will be striving to elect the very thing they were brought into existence to fight against.

You will not get these folks to turn out and hold their noses. You will not get the Christians to vote for abortion and gay marriage. You will not get civil libertarians to vote for big government and gun control. You will not get capitalist conservatives to vote for Keynesian math.

Get this, Yam: Your insistence stifles what could otherwise happen: This site, preeminent on all the web, could (almost by itself) lift a conservative candidate. The Christians would have someone to vote *FOR*. The civil-libertarians would have someone to vote *FOR*. The military and capitalist Conservatives would have someone to vote *FOR*. THEN they will fight. THEN they will strive. Then you will see the base fired up.

And even if they ultimately miss electing a president, there would be happy solace in the fact that we all stood for what we do believe in, and didn't have to hold our noses... and turnout would be more likely to bring us a conservative House , and a Conservative Senate, which is where the battle really is anyhow.

This site, at it's core is *for* Conservative activism. That is what we *DO*. It is when all the pragmatist nippleheads are shouted down that the banner is unfurled. It is when we are doing the right thing (and the Right thing) that this site has power. And when she hits her stride she is a force to be reckoned with. That is when we can sound the clarion call, and make no mistake, *that* is our job.

And that shout-out gets a holler-back from the TEA Parties and the Christian Right (both of whom have their own monstrous networks ready to go), and finally, other conservative media... and off we go.

So it actually IS a matter of simple logic, as you proclaim, but not as you define it - Conservatives are not gonna turn out for what they don't believe in, and trying to co-opt them with mere Republican-ism (voting for the big rhinestone 'R') has never worked, and will not work now.

If you want the Conservatives to turn out in force (and when that happens, it cannot be stopped), you must give them someone to vote *FOR*. They are already pissed and wanting a fight, but they need someone to coalesce behind - The harnessing of the Conservative factions, as it has always been called - and that ain't Romney. It is predictable.

So maybe this will give you a peek at what those of us whom you impugn are driven by. Why I fight vociferously against Romney is because he is false, doomed to fail from the start... And it takes all the air away from those who really could advance our cause, and actually do have a chance at waking up the sleeping giant. Reagan's great gift to Conservatives was to show us what we can do when we work together - And how that works (the only way it works) is when no one has to take a back seat... Where everyone's immovable 'first things' (principles, for those of you in Rio Linda) are honored and upheld.

Romney cannot ... And I do mean CANNOT... be that guy. So let's get busy and find someone who can.

443 posted on 07/11/2012 12:47:52 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; ...

Very well stated. Bravo!!


456 posted on 07/11/2012 12:57:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: roamer_1
BUMP
462 posted on 07/11/2012 1:03:24 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: roamer_1; rogue yam; dirtboy; Jim Robinson; Finny; BlackElk; cripplecreek; EternalVigilance

I do not want to see a second Obama term.

I do not want to see a first Romney term.

Our nation is too important for either.

That said, I see no reason to lie about
what confronts us.

Obama is our enemy. Romney is out enemy.

Accepting this is the only peace we’ll
get this election year.

I and many others tried to explain what
nominating Mitt Romney would mean to
Conservatism. People didn’t listen to us.

Here we are. Enjoy.

If you don’t like this, contact folks in
early primary states and explain to them
how unhappy you are.

Hopefully in 2016, we can nominate a person
that agrees with us. If not we’ll do this
all over again.

One call that is worth making, is a call
to the RNC to let them know that you are
leaving the party.

Open primaries and elected Republicans have
made it impossible for Conservatives to get
any support.

Personally, I’m done with them.

When 0.05% of the voting public is registered
as a Republican, perhaps the RNC will be more
willing to listen to Conservatives.

I somehow doubt it though.


463 posted on 07/11/2012 1:05:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: roamer_1; Finny; Norm Lenhart; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; ...
Post #443

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503 posted on 07/11/2012 2:24:02 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: roamer_1

That is a damn good post.

Well done roamer_1.


506 posted on 07/11/2012 2:27:18 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: roamer_1; rogue yam; All
Yam says, Thus campaigning against Romney on this site supports Obama. It is a matter of simple logic.

Equally simple logic says that campaigning for and supporting Romney is campaigning for and supporting government tyranny promoted by the Republican party.

508 posted on 07/11/2012 2:29:42 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: roamer_1

Great post, Roamer.


512 posted on 07/11/2012 2:35:58 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: roamer_1

Great post, roamer_1.

> Romney cannot ... And I do mean CANNOT... be that guy. So
> let’s get busy and find someone who can.

Which conservative candidate would you nominate?


526 posted on 07/11/2012 3:36:02 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: roamer_1

Thumbs up roamer...


560 posted on 07/11/2012 6:10:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: roamer_1

Well I can’t top that, or even match it...But my sentiments exactly...Thankyou...


580 posted on 07/11/2012 7:16:09 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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